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If an episode drops on a major Christian holiday, trust the gals not to ignore the drama of it all. Just in time for Easter, they get help from a new friend of the pod, Bart Campolo, who is the son of a famous evangelist and who was a minister in the evangelical tradition himself for decades. That’s right, was. His later-in-life leap of non-faith led him all the way to secular humanism and a new kind of evangelical fervor––spreading the word about the sheer joy of living, heaven and hell be damned.

Bart keeps the conversation hopping with takes on how to scientifically conjure worship vibes and how not to let the narratives of the bible be held hostage by the literalists. Exvangelical listeners will especially appreciate his strategies for kindly but true-to-you conversations with those you left behind in the pews. Normal listeners will be fascinated at this peek inside a movement that seems intent on Making America Godly Again.

Resources:

Bart Campolo, Humanize Me (podcast)

Raphael, The School of Athens (painting)

Greg Epstein, Good Without God: What a Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe

Tony Campolo and Bart Campolo, Why I Left, Why I Stayed: Conversations on Christianity Between an Evangelical Father and His Humanist Son

Leaving My Father’s Faith (documentary)

Quem Quaeritas (early dramatization of Easter story within Catholic Mass)

Additional Music:
Jon Presstone, Fancy and Friendly
Raighes Factory, Peaceful Light
Turquoise Moon, Soulful Jazz PianoTransition
Jon Presstone, Spirit in the Sunrise

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Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)