Who gets to decide what is considered brave? And how do you determine which rules are worth breaking?

Senator Fatima Payman is being lauded a hero for crossing the floor by her supporters, and a bad team player by others. Similarly Julian Assange is a free speech icon for some, and a reckless criminal according to his critics.

History is littered with examples of people who changed trajectories by saying F you to rule based order of the day. Applauded by their fans, vilified by the media – so who gets to decide who wears a cape?

The Antoinettes hash out bravery as they see it, and when breaking rules and starting a fire is more destructive than its worth.

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If you didn’t watch the whole 90 minute U.S Presidential debate, The Antoinettes have you covered. We are still deciding whether to laugh or scream over what transpired.

American Antoinette has many thoughts and some pressing questions about why exactly golf, porn stars, and name calling played such a big role in the debate.

The other Antoinette is a former debating coach and university debating champion -- and naturally she has a rebuttal and adjudication to deliver.

And of course -- The Antoinettes can’t agree on whether a game of Sudoku or a staring competition should determine who becomes President.

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The latest cult making headline is a fascinating mixture of TikTok, popular dancers and a church and the fallout is playing out real time.

It is also alleged that ‘cults’ grew during COVID and some spread anti-vaccination ideas.

It’s easy to be judgy about people who get caught up in a cult, and make generalisations about who is most likely to be lured.

But you may be surprised about who is most likely to join a cult and why. In this episode, one Antoinette is considering joining a dance cult, while the other shares her journey when a cult tried to recruit her.

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