Ryan Anderson has a conversation with Norman Ohler about his book ‘Tripped”. A provocative new history of drugs and postwar America, examining the untold story of how Nazi experiments into psychedelics covertly influenced CIA research and secretly shaped the War on Drugs We discuss the history of MKULTRA and the corruption of Big Pharma as it relates to the war on drugs. They discuss the dark history of LSD, including its use by the CIA and the Nazis, and the influence of pharmaceutical companies on drug regulation. They discuss MAPS and some of the issues with investors and incentives driving outcomes. They also touch on the flaws of the medical model and the need for regulation of big business. The conversation explores the risks and potential benefits of psychedelics and the importance of changing societal attitudes towards drugs. Norman discusses his new book project on the history of psychedelics and the role of drugs in different eras of history. Ryan suggests people for Norman to interview for his new book, including Dennis McKenna and Paul Stamets, Brian Muraresku, and Robert Forte. They discuss the corruption of the private prison system and the harms caused by drub prohibition at large.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:00 The Dark History of LSD

09:23 The Influence of Pharmaceutical Companies

16:34 Regulating Big Business and Shifting Attitudes

28:00 Introduction and Overview of Norman's New Book

32:04 The Potential of Psychedelics as Medicine

36:50 The Countercultural Movement: Revolution or Reform?

40:13 The Need for a Different Understanding of Who We Are

42:41 Exploring the Dark and Dirty Truths of History

46:10 Questioning Authority and Breaking Down Walls

48:30 Parting Thoughts and Recommendations

Music for every episode

Intro and exit music used: Strange the dreamer by Savfk - www.youtube.com/@savfkmusic

Connect with NORMAN OHLER: https://www.normanohler.de/

Brian Muraresku The immortality Key book https://brianmuraresku.com/

Edward Bernays book Propaganda. "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."

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Keywords

LSD, history, Alzheimer's, CIA, Nazis, pharmaceutical companies, medical model, regulation, psychedelics, drug policy, history of psychedelics, drugs, eras of history, identity, psychoactive compounds, countercultural movement, prison system, psychedelics as medicine, Alzheimer's