In this conversation, Mehmet sits down with Amos Bar-Joseph, Founder and CEO of Swan AI, to unpack what it really means to build an autonomous company.

Amos shares how he moved away from the traditional “growth at all costs” startup model toward a lean, intelligence-driven approach powered by human-AI collaboration.

Together, they discuss:

• Why headcount is no longer the main growth lever

• How founders can become “100x operators” with AI

• The future of GTM in an agentic world

• Why autonomy beats bureaucracy

• How to scale without losing culture

This is a deep dive into the next-generation startup playbook.

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👤 About the Guest

Amos Bar-Joseph is the Founder and CEO of Swan AI.

A serial entrepreneur with two prior exits, Amos is building one of the first truly autonomous businesses. His work focuses on human-AI collaboration, agentic workflows, and redefining how modern companies scale.

He is also the author of The Big Shift newsletter and a leading voice on AI-native organizations.

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🎯 Key Takeaways

• Startups can scale with intelligence, not headcount

• AI should amplify human “zones of genius,” not replace them

• GTM success depends on how buyers want to buy, not how founders want to sell

• Context engineering is becoming a core GTM skill

• Flat, autonomous teams require stronger leadership, not less

• Decision velocity is the biggest startup advantage

• Capital matters, but leverage matters more

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📚 What You’ll Learn

By listening to this episode, you’ll learn:

✅ How to design an autonomous business model

✅ Where humans should stay in the loop with AI

✅ How to use agents to accelerate product-market fit

✅ Why relevance beats personalization in outreach

✅ How to build scalable GTM systems

✅ How leadership changes in flat organizations

✅ How to preserve culture while scaling

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⏱️ Episode Highlights & Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction & Amos’ background

02:00 – Why the traditional startup model is broken

04:30 – Building with three people and AI

07:00 – Zone of Genius + AI amplification

09:30 – Human-in-the-loop GTM strategy

12:00 – Choosing the right growth model

15:00 – Selling with empathy

18:00 – Personalization vs relevance

21:00 – Context engineering in GTM

24:00 – AI and product-market fit

27:00 – Decision velocity as a startup advantage

31:00 – Autonomous leadership challenges

35:00 – Culture without hierarchy

38:00 – Fundraising in an AI-native world

41:00 – The “Swan” philosophy vs unicorns

44:00 – Future vision for Swan AI

46:00 – Where to follow Amos

47:00 – Closing remarks

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🔗 Resources Mentioned

• Swan AI Platform: https://getswan.com/

• Amos Bar-Joseph on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amos-bar-joseph/

• Autonomous GPT (ChatGPT Store): https://chatgpt.com/g/g-6800e20892b8819181df24a31ccdbf96-autonamos

In this deep and thought-provoking episode, Mehmet sits down with Alessandro Grampa, Founder of Whole Grain Wisdom, to explore what it truly means to be a “Quantum Founder” in the age of AI, hyper-growth, and burnout.

From panic attacks and founder stress to meditation, neuroscience, ancient wisdom, and artificial intelligence, Alessandro shares his personal transformation and the framework he now uses to help high performers reconnect with purpose, resilience, and inner coherence.

This is not a typical startup conversation. It is a masterclass on conscious leadership, mental resilience, and building meaningful companies without losing yourself in the process.

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👤 About the Guest: Alessandro Grampa

Alessandro Grampa is the Founder of Whole Grain Wisdom, a platform that bridges modern science with ancient wisdom to help entrepreneurs and high performers unlock their highest potential.

With over 13 years of entrepreneurial experience, Alessandro transitioned from hustle-driven burnout to becoming a guide for founders seeking balance, clarity, and purpose. His work integrates neuroscience, meditation, biohacking, quantum physics, and spiritual practices.

Today, he works with select founders through deep transformation programs focused on mind, body, and consciousness alignment.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandro-grampa/

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🎯 Key Takeaways

• Why 3 out of 4 founders struggle with mental and emotional health

• How external validation drives burnout in entrepreneurship

• What “Quantum Founder” really means

• The hidden role of meditation and retreats among elite founders

• Why consistency alone is not enough for real growth

• How AI can amplify self-awareness and consciousness

• The link between neuroscience, ancient wisdom, and leadership

• How founders can rewire their mindset for long-term success

• Why purpose matters more than ever in the AI era

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📚 What You’ll Learn in This Episode

By listening to this episode, you’ll learn:

• How to manage founder stress and prevent burnout

• Why many successful entrepreneurs still feel “empty”

• How to develop inner clarity in high-pressure environments

• The difference between hustle culture and conscious growth

• How top founders use meditation, retreats, and reflection

• How to use AI as a tool for self-development

• Why consciousness is becoming a leadership advantage

• How to reconnect with your original purpose as a founder

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⏱️ Episode Highlights & Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction and Alessandro’s journey

02:10 – From panic attacks to meditation

05:30 – Discovering Eastern philosophy and biohacking

08:40 – Why most founders hide mental struggles

11:50 – External validation vs inner coherence

15:20 – What is a “Quantum Founder”?

18:30 – How elite founders use meditation retreats

22:10 – Recognition vs repetition in personal growth

26:40 – Science meets ancient wisdom

30:50 – Consciousness and reality perception

35:10 – AI as a tool for self-awareness

38:45 – The future of leadership in the AI era

42:30 – When is the right time to start inner work?

45:10 – How to work with Alessandro

47:00 – Final reflections and closing

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🔗 Resources Mentioned

• Whole Grain Wisdom: https://wholegrainwisdom.com

In this episode, Mehmet sits down with Tamara Laine, Founder and CEO of MPWR, to explore how AI and agentic systems are reshaping the future of lending.

They discuss why traditional credit scores fail gig workers and modern professionals, how alternative data can unlock financial inclusion, and what it really means to build human-centered fintech in an AI-first world.

From explainable AI to ethical lending and the future of work, this conversation goes deep into how finance must evolve to serve the new economy.

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👤 About the Guest: Tamara Laine

Tamara Laine is the Founder and CEO of MPWR, an AI-native fintech company building agentic ecosystems for inclusive lending.

With a background in journalism and startups, Tamara focuses on system-level change in finance, helping underserved and “thin-file” borrowers access fair credit through behavioral and alternative data.

She is a strong advocate for ethical AI, transparency, and human-centered technology design.

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🔑 Key Takeaways

• Why traditional credit scores exclude more than 50% of potential borrowers

• How AI enables more accurate and fair lending decisions

• The role of behavioral and alternative data in modern credit models

• Why explainability is critical in financial AI systems

• How regulation can enable or block innovation

• The future of work and its impact on financial systems

• Why purpose still matters in an AI-driven economy

• How founders can build startups through complementary partnerships

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🎯 What You’ll Learn

By listening to this episode, you’ll learn:

• How agentic AI is changing lending infrastructure

• Why gig workers and freelancers are underserved by banks

• How financial identity may become portable in the future

• What “human-in-the-loop” means in fintech

• How to design ethical, transparent AI systems

• Why unintended consequences matter in technology

• How entrepreneurship is evolving in the AI era

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⭐ Episode Highlights

• The limitations of legacy credit scoring systems

• AI-powered cashflow and behavior analysis

• Explainable lending decisions in real time

• Financial inclusion for nomadic workers

• Surveillance vs. personalization in finance

• Universal Basic Income and purpose

• The rise of one-person, AI-powered companies

• Founder dynamics and team building

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⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction & Guest Background

02:00 – Why Credit Systems Are Broken

04:00 – Gig Economy and Underserved Borrowers

06:00 – Alternative Data in Lending

08:30 – Portable Financial Identity

11:00 – Regulation and Global Credit

13:30 – Explainable AI in Finance

15:30 – Trust, Transparency, and Surveillance

18:00 – Ethical AI and Unintended Consequences

22:00 – Future of Work and Solopreneurs

25:30 – Universal Income and Purpose

29:00 – Building Startups Through Partnerships

32:00 – Final Thoughts & Where to Find Tamara

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🔗 Resources Mentioned

• MPWR Website: https://mpwrai.com/

• MPWR Money Platform: https://mpwr.money

• Connect with Tamara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaralaine/