Episodios

  • EP18 - Dealing with Mature ESOPs, Repurchase Liability, Changes in Economy, and Re-leveraging - Discussion with Renee Jenkins with Holiday Builders
    Jul 1 2024

    This episode will be very informative through the long-tenured experience of Renee Jenkins with Holiday Builder’s ESOP. Renee has been a long-time employee of the company managing the Finance/HR Branch. On this episode of the Podcast, we discuss the issues in a straightforward approach and solutions that she has worked through. This discussion covers possible issues that can arise during the ESOP process which may seem unsolvable, but have reliable solutions. For mature ESOP company’s there might be areas you are currently dealing with including repurchase liability, changes in the economy, and running out of ESOP shares in the trust. This episode covers solutions to these topics!

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    45 m
  • EP17 - Quigley Down Under - Taking the Long Shot - Preparing for a Successful ESOP
    Jun 18 2024

    We find that once an ESOP closes, there is some degree of uncertainty on the next steps. In this episode, we focus on the ESOP closing guide to prepare clients on the correct ways to implement the organizational structure and timeline of a successful ESOP. In other words, we cover how to accomplish a company’s goals in the transition of an ESOP that take specific knowledge of timing and communication.

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    33 m
  • EP16 - ESOPs and Private Equity - Discussion with Jason Miller
    Jun 5 2024

    On this episode, Jason Miller (former National Director of ESOPs for Bank of America) and I explore the “Expanding ESOP Initiative” that was recently aired on 60 Minutes. The focus of this podcast is to provide an update as to what is happening in the National ESOP space and how the ESOP initiative started. The initiative’s work is centered around the question: “Why are there not more ESOP companies in the United States?” Jason Miller was part of the initiative and shares some insight into the process and how this initiative is currently being developed.

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    47 m
  • EP15 - Bridge Over Troubled Water - The Historical Cash Flow and Forecasted Cash Flow Connecting To Your Valuation for an ESOP
    May 22 2024

    This episode focuses on the development of an expected valuation to help a shareholder understand selling their shares to an ESOP. When the historical average cash flow is much lower than the forecasted cash flow, the negotiated fair market value or adequate consideration can be much lower than desired. This is what the podcast refers to as “bridge over troubled water.” Where the bridge is historical to forecasted cash flow.

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    37 m
  • EP14 - ESOP Communication - Interview with Diana Clark
    May 8 2024

    This episode is a general overview of ESOP communication. Diana Clark and I discuss the importance of communicating an ESOP transition to your employees. We discuss how to present an ESOP to your company, answering the question: What is in it for the employee? This is a very essential part of the ESOP journey--once the ESOP closes this marks a new beginning for the company. Communication is central to building a highly effective ESOP company, as well as re energizing mature ESOPs.

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    46 m
  • EP13 - Randy Macho Man Savage - Bring Down or Take Down Call For An ESOP Transaction
    Apr 23 2024

    Randy Macho Man Savage was a childhood hero who my brothers and I constantly impersonated while watching WWF wrestling. For a time, I didn’t realize it was choreographed fighting and not a real fight. This podcast episode uses this picture of WWF Wrestling to discuss what is called the “bring down” call for an ESOP transaction. This is a call conducted by the independent valuation firm representing the trustee around the final closing call. It is intended to ask about any changes in the business since they did due diligence and after negotiations. The importance of this this episode is to understand how to navigate changes in your ESOP transaction right up to the point of closing.

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    31 m
  • EP12 - ESOP Experience with Nancy Pratt at Frederick Derr & Company - a 100 percent Employee-Owned Company
    Apr 12 2024

    This podcast episode features Nancy Pratt, CFO of Frederick Derr and Company. They are a construction company out of Sarasota, FL who closed on a 100 percent ESOP transaction at the end of 2023. The episode is our first interview from a CFO perspective. Nancy does a phenomenal job of explaining the ESOP process from the role of the CFO. This episode also compares and contrasts an ESOP transaction vs. a strategic sale.

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    50 m
  • EP11 - Titanic - Avoiding The Icebergs On Your ESOP
    Apr 2 2024

    This podcast is all about designing your ESOP so the company can be successful and avoid any potential pitfalls. Through the episode, we get to celebrate the movie: “Titanic” (Spoiler alert - the ship sinks at the end). One of the aspects of ESOP design is understanding the ESOP process and the importance of cash flow and balancing leverage for the company with the respective tax benefits. As a whole, the ESOP industry often has diverse opinions on what creates a sustainable ESOP deal. This is partly due to the myriad of conflicts of interest often found in deal teams. The goal of this episode is to help you ask the right questions and ensure your company has the correct ESOP design.

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    37 m