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  • #303 Chris Whalen: Stocks Running Out of Buyers, NYC's Future Under Mamdani & The Case for Gold
    Nov 9 2025

    Chris Whalen, chairman of Whalen Global Advisors and author of The Institutional Risk Analyst blog, returns for an in-person conversation for episode 303. Whalen warns that stocks and crypto are slowing down as they run out of buyers, while real estate pain continues with older assets selling at discounts and more trouble ahead for private equity and private credit. He attributes Zohran Mamdani's NYC mayoral victory to inflation-driven affordability concerns, predicts a home price correction by 2027-28, and expects continued corporate exodus from New York City as long-term leases roll off. Whalen criticizes the Fed for pushing home prices up 50% since COVID and failing their mandate on price stability, discusses widespread fraud in private credit markets, and highlights Bank of America's duration risk mistakes compared to JPMorgan and Citi. He's currently focused on gold and junior mining stocks, explaining the "debasement trade" as central banks worldwide shift to gold as their primary reserve asset, while predicting crypto will "go bye-bye" and calling stablecoins a dead end.


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    Links:

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen

    Website: https://www.rcwhalen.com/

    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/

    Inflated book (2nd edition): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inflated-r-christopher-whalen/1146303673


    Timestamps:

    0:00 - Welcome and introduction

    1:02 - Reaction to Mamdani election

    2:03 - Is this the product of inflation?

    2:10 - Inflation driving affordability issues, Fed's failure

    2:54 - Heading into correction in home prices by 2027-28

    5:26 - How mortgage lenders set rates vs. bond market

    6:33 - Will we see a housing emergency declared?

    12:08 - Outlook for New York for next four years

    14:59 - Big picture view: stocks and crypto slowing down

    15:30 - Pain in real estate, private equity, and private credit

    20:37 - Duration risk story at banks

    27:47 - Will we get December rate cut?

    29:17 - Fed funds rate targeting piece

    32:49 - Chris's portfolio: taking acorns off the table

    35:59 - The debasement trade

    39:36 - Crypto going bye-bye, stable coins a dead end

    42:05 - Closing remarks

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  • #302 Whitney Tilson: The Hedge Fund Manager Who Ran Against Mamdani on the "Trojan Horse" Mayor, Why NYC Will Thrive Anyway, Riding This Bull Market & His Top Stock Picks and "Stinky Six" to Avoid
    Nov 6 2025

    Value investor and former New York City mayoral candidate Whitney Tilson returns to The Julia La Roche Show following the election of Zohran Mamdani, a Democratic socialist, as NYC's new mayor. Tilson reflects on the election results, expressing concern about the candidate he called a "Trojan horse for the DSA" with dangerous ideas about defunding police and seizing private property—yet remains bullish on New York City's future. He also shares his market outlook, favorite long ideas including Berkshire Hathaway and Amazon, and the "stinky six" stocks he's avoiding right now.


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    Links:

    https://stansberryresearch.com/

    https://stansberryresearch.com/whitney-tilsons-daily


    Timestamps:

    0:00 - Introduction and welcome Whitney Tilson, day after NYC mayoral election

    1:04 - Mixed feelings about election night

    2:00 - Warnings about Zohran Mamdani and democratic socialist concerns

    2:45 - Still bullish on New York despite election outcome

    3:10 - What Mamdani's election says about the city

    3:22 - Democratic Party dynamics and Trump reaction

    4:37 - Why Mamdani won: identifying affordability as key issue

    4:54 - Mamdani's effective messaging: free buses, freeze the rent, universal childcare

    5:45 - Economics don't work: the promises can't be funded

    6:30 - Mamdani as a gifted politician and brilliant public speaker

    7:10 - The "Trojan horse for the DSA" warning

    7:43 - Whitney's concerns about Mamdani: hostility to Israel, defund police rhetoric

    8:30 - Mamdani tacking to center: keeping Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch

    9:27 - NYC's vibe is back post-pandemic

    9:38 - Big employers making long-term commitments to NYC

    10:25 - Risk of turning into San Francisco

    10:52 - Wait and see mode: wealthy residents considering leaving

    14:30 - Why Mamdani is still dangerous

    16:06 - Running for mayor: what surprised Whitney

    20:00 - Hope that Mamdani learns from cautionary tales

    36:56 - Investment ideas: favorite longs

    44:00 - Stocks to avoid: the "stinky six"

    47:04 - Berkshire's massive cash pile: $382 billion

    51:47 - What's keeping Whitney up at night

    56:30 - What makes Whitney optimistic: America's economic recovery

    59:38 - Closing remarks

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  • #301 Dr. Gary Shilling: Labor Markets Weakening, Recession Concerns & Why Markets May Wake Up Soon
    Nov 1 2025

    Legendary economist Dr. A. Gary Shilling, President of A. Gary Shilling & Co., an economic consulting firm and a registered investment advisor, joins Julia La Roche on episode 301 on FOMC day. In this episode, Dr. Shilling warns that the economy is cooling with weakening labor markets and stagnant job creation, yet security markets continue to rise without reflecting this underlying weakness. Despite the government shutdown limiting official data, private sector information reveals businesses are cautious about demand and inflation, while consumers face limited financial slack due to heavy student loan and credit card borrowing. Shilling believes the Fed is cutting rates because they fear a recession is on the horizon, and he cautions that "we're probably gonna wake up one of these days and find that things are really a lot weaker than we expect" - at which point markets could deteriorate quickly. He also expresses concern about the "debt bomb" - the massive accumulation of government debt now exceeding $38 trillion with no logical endpoint in sight. However, Shilling remains impressed by the adaptability and resilience of the US economy, noting how it has successfully adjusted to disruptions like tariffs that many predicted would be disastrous.


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    Timestamps:

    0:00 - Introduction & welcome

    0:48 - Big picture macro view: economy appears to be cooling

    1:30 - Government shutdown: private data filling the holes

    2:00 - Weakening labor markets: limited new hiring

    2:45 - Businesses cautious about demand and inflation

    3:17 - Recession concerns: won't know until well into it

    3:45 - Security markets not reflecting economic weakness

    4:03 - Fed Chair Powell presser context (October 29th FOMC meeting)

    4:32 - Why markets are overly focused on Fed actions

    5:30 - Fed's tightrope walk: keeping economy above water

    6:25 - Are rate cuts signaling recession fears?

    6:34 - Fed concerned about softening labor markets

    7:20 - Finding hidden vulnerabilities during data blackout

    7:51 - Labor market concerns: limited consumer slack

    8:20 - Heavy borrowing: student loans and credit cards

    27:24 - US fiscal picture: debt north of $38 trillion

    27:45 - The debt bomb concept explained

    28:45 - Massive global debt expansion concerns

    29:49 - What happens when debt reaches its limit?

    30:23 - What's keeping Dr. Shilling up at night

    31:15 - Lack of concern about debt accumulation

    32:00 - What makes him hopeful: US economy's strength and adaptability

    32:46 - Economic adaptability to disruptions

    33:11 - Tariffs discussion: six months later perspective

    33:46 - How economies adapt to tariff disruptions

    35:03 - Where to find Dr. Shilling's work

    35:25 - Parting thoughts: avoiding fads of the moment

    36:37 - Closing remarks


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  • #300 Danielle DiMartino Booth: "Something Else Is Going On" at the Fed - December Rate Cut in Doubt Despite Weakening Labor Data and Worker Struggles
    Oct 30 2025

    Danielle DiMartino Booth, CEO and Chief Strategist at QI Research, joins Julia La Roche to break down the October 2024 FOMC meeting and Fed Chair Powell's surprisingly hawkish stance despite mounting evidence of labor market weakness. Danielle questions whether the Fed is ignoring its dual mandate as major companies like UPS, GM, Meta, and Amazon announce tens of thousands of layoffs. She discusses the dissents from both Stephen Miran and Jeffrey Schmid, explores potential political dynamics at play within the Fed, and examines growing stress in private credit markets, commercial real estate, and rising corporate bankruptcies. Danielle also highlights alternative labor market indicators like state-by-state data and WARN notices that paint a concerning picture of the economy, while emphasizing the importance of compassion for struggling American families heading into the holiday season.


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    Links:

    Danielle's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/dimartinobooth

    Substack: https://dimartinobooth.substack.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielleDiMartinoBoothQI

    Fed Up: https://www.amazon.com/Fed-Up-Insiders-Federal-Reserve/dp/0735211655


    0:00 Introduction & episode 300 celebration

    1:37 FOMC meeting reaction - Powell's hawkish tone

    2:33 What's really going on at the Fed?

    3:48 The two dissenters - Miran & Schmid

    5:39 Market reaction to Powell's comments

    6:17 The Fed's labor mandate - are they ignoring it?

    7:16 Major layoff announcements - UPS, GM, Meta, Amazon

    8:00 Is the Fed sticking it to the administration?

    9:55 Fed balance sheet & mortgage-backed securities

    16:19 Private credit market concerns

    27:04 Corporate bankruptcies rising

    28:18 October bankruptcy data - highest post-pandemic

    29:22 Interest rate impact on corporate refinancing

    30:05 What would you ask Powell? State-by-state data

    31:29 WARN notices & real labor market data

    32:19 Layoffs aren't free - cost to companies

    33:10 ADP weekly data as labor market indicator

    33:26 Message of compassion during the holidays

    34:29 Closing & where to find Danielle's work

    35:09 QI Research & Daily Feather newsletter

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  • #299 Michael Pento: Market Warning on Three Record Bubbles, Why the Fed Can't Save Us & Why He's Net Long (For Now)
    Oct 28 2025

    Michael Pento, president and founder of Pento Portfolio Strategies (PPS), joins Julia La Roche for episode 299. Pento continues to warn of three unprecedented asset bubbles in stocks, bonds, and credit existing concurrently. Despite being net long and up handsomely this year, he emphasizes the critical need for active management. Pento explains why the next crisis will likely stem from spiking bond yields and intractable inflation rather than insolvency alone, making traditional Fed interventions ineffective. He argues that any meaningful correction would be catastrophic given the massive scale of current distortions, while the Fed desperately tries to keep bubbles inflated through rate cuts and resumed quantitative easing.



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    Links:

    https://pentoport.com/

    https://twitter.com/michaelpento


    0:00 Intro and welcome back Michael Pento

    0:59 Big picture macro view

    1:38 Three unprecedented asset bubbles: Stocks, bonds, and credit

    3:38 Inflation accelerating

    4:01 Fed panicking to keep the bubble going

    6:56 Are you nervous being net long the market?

    8:35 The next crisis will be different - Stagflation risk

    9:43 Bond market revolt scenario

    12:28 Magnificent Seven concentration risk

    14:15 Government shutdown and lack of economic data

    16:19 Treasury issuance and bond market dynamics

    18:42 Federal budget deficit concerns

    20:33 Fed's balance sheet and quantitative tightening ending

    24:18 Bifurcated economy

    36:45 Political pressure on the Fed

    38:50 Trump's economic policies and inflation risks

    40:33 Tariffs and their inflationary impact

    46:23 What keeps Michael up at night?

    47:50 The great reconciliation of asset prices coming

    49:02 Where to find Michael's work - Pento Portfolio Strategies

    50:10 Closing thoughts

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  • #298 'Quoth The Raven' Chris Irons: We Are Completely Off The Rails In Unprecedented Territory
    Oct 23 2025

    Financial commentator Chris Irons, also known as Quoth the Raven on X and author of the popular Fringe Finance substack, warns we're in "completely off the rails, unprecedented territory" with the Fed trapped between printing money to save markets or allowing deflationary debt defaults. He predicts the Fed will ultimately implement yield curve control to bail out the bond market, pushing America down an emerging market path negative for the dollar—which gold's historic rally is already pricing in. Irons dismisses gold meme stock concerns since central banks are the primary buyers, and argues government spending is politically impossible to cut. Drawing from his background as anonymous short seller "Quoth The Raven," he explains why short sellers face unprecedented challenges as Fed liquidity creates massive distortions—$2 trillion in worthless crypto finds bids while fundamentally sound shorts get squeezed. He believes during April's Liberation Day, markets were "days away from a bond market crisis" when stocks and bonds unusually sold off together. Irons warns a sharp deleveraging event is inevitable though timing is uncertain, offering blunt advice: "Don't listen to anybody, including me" and avoid certainty, because we've never been here before and things can change profoundly overnight.


    This episode is sponsored by Monetary Metals. Visit https://www.monetary-metals.com/julia/


    Links:

    X: https://x.com/QTRResearch

    Substack: https://quoththeraven.substack.com/


    Timestamps:

    0:00 - Introduction & welcome

    0:36 - Guest introduction: Chris Irons "Quoth The Raven"

    1:14 - Big picture macro view: unprecedented territory

    2:19 - Gold's rally & stock market highs

    2:54 - The 100-year inflationary cycle

    4:35 - Fed's dual mandate tension

    5:34 - Upcoming Fed meeting & rate cuts

    8:00 - Young generation following monetary policy

    10:00 - Gold

    16:00 - The debasement trade going mainstream

    18:40 - Fiscal picture

    23:00 - Gold, feels we are on the precipice of a big change

    28:00 - Short selling

    43:00 - The ultimate bubble

    45:00 - Closing



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  • #297 Jim Bianco: Markets at All-Time Highs - So Why Is the Fed Cutting Rates?
    Oct 21 2025

    Jim Bianco, president of Bianco Research, returns to The Julia La Roche Show for episode 297 for an in-studio appearance. Bianco argues the Fed is making a policy error by cutting rates when financial markets are at all-time highs across the board—stocks, gold, bonds, M2, and home prices. He explains that job creation has slowed from 158,000 to 29,000 per month not because the economy is weak, but because immigration has essentially stopped, reducing population growth to an 80-year low—meaning 29,000 jobs may actually be appropriate. Bianco warns that cutting rates in this environment risks recreating inflation through two key channels: tariffs (average rates up 6x to 17-18%) and remote work (giving labor more power to demand higher wages). He sees dangerous concentration in AI stocks (41 companies representing 47% of S&P 500 market cap) reminiscent of late-1990s bubble dynamics, with aggressive retail buying and passive flows creating mispricing that could end badly when the "buy the dip" mentality finally breaks.


    This episode is sponsored by Monetary Metals. Visit monetary-metals.com/julia


    Links:

    BiancoResearch.com

    BiancoAdvisors.com

    x.com/biancoresearch


    0:00 Welcome Jim Bianco - first in-person episode

    0:27 Big picture macro view

    1:18 Jobs market slowdown - 158K to 29K jobs/month

    2:18 Immigration and population growth collapse

    3:04 How many jobs should we be creating?

    4:34 Is the Fed making a policy error by cutting?

    6:35 Risk of recreating inflation with rate cuts

    7:28 Tariffs update - average rate up 6x to 17-18%

    9:00 Remote work as inflation driver

    10:32 Labor power shift and wage pressure

    13:00 Where will new workers come from?

    15:00 What would you ask Jay Powell at FOMC?

    17:05 What problem does cutting rates actually fix?

    18:15 Market behavior - everything going up

    19:08 The 60/40 portfolio debate

    20:00 Passive bid and perpetual motion machine

    21:25 Retail buying the dip aggressively

    23:02 AI concentration - 41 companies = 47% of market cap

    25:00 Data center overbuilding risk

    25:59 Opening your statements - everything looks great

    27:28 Top 10% making 50% of all income

    29:21 Inflation destroys cultures and economies

    30:00 Would you trade higher unemployment for lower inflation?

    33:17 Inflating our way out of debt problem

    34:19 Jay Powell's "do your patriotic duty" speeches in 2022

    36:23 Story of interviewing for Fed Governor position

    39:11 Judy Shelton coming up one vote short

    41:28 Who will be next Fed Chair?

    42:51 Why Kevin Hassett is the leading choice

    45:30 Where to find Jim's work and the WTBN ETF

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  • #296 David Woo on the Macro Trade Everyone's Missing: What the US-China Trade War Is Really About
    Oct 18 2025

    Macro trends blogger and economist David Woo @DavidWooUnbound, CEO of David Woo Unbound, a global forum devoted to the promotion of fact-based debates about markets, politics, and economics, joins Julia La Roche on episode 296 to discuss the trade war, AI, and markets.


    Sponsors:

    Monetary Metals. https://monetary-metals.com/julia


    In this episode, Woo warns that the US economy is heading toward stagflation as tariff impacts finally materialize, with holiday shopping expected to be weak due to consumers having front-loaded purchases in anticipation of price increases. He argues the US is now in a weaker position versus China in the tech war, as China has survived Trump's tariffs through factory automation and AI integration while US manufacturing continues shedding jobs even in protected sectors. Woo is short NASDAQ heading into November 1st, when China's rare earth export restrictions take effect, believing the market has mispriced both the AI bubble (with companies like OpenAI spending unsustainably while hitting technology plateaus) and the intensifying US-China showdown over AI supremacy—calling this "the macro trade of our generation."


    Woo, the former head of Global Interest Rates, Foreign Exchange, Emerging Markets Fixed Income Strategy & Economics Research at Bank of America, is known for some of his bold and contrarian calls, including Trump winning the presidential race in 2016 (https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/08/bofaml-analyst-got-ovation-from-co-workers-the-morning-after-election.html), and that the 2020 US presidential election would be much closer than expected and the results contested (https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/the-dangerous-groupthink-stalking-wall-street-20210909-p58q48).


    Links:

    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidWooUnbound

    Website: https://www.davidwoounbound.com/

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Davidwoounbound


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Welcome David Woo back to the show

    0:54 Big picture macro view and difficult 2025

    3:08 Why tariffs haven't impacted economy yet

    6:09 Consumer spending as preemptive buying

    9:16 Holiday shopping weakness ahead

    10:05 Gen Z consumer struggles

    12:05 Stagflation thesis explained

    14:28 Manufacturing job losses in protected sectors

    16:43 Who's benefiting from tariffs?

    18:05 US-China trade war positioning

    21:52 China's factory automation advantage

    23:54 US vs China AI strategies

    26:44 The race for AI dominance

    29:31 The macro trade of our generation

    32:01 Jensen Huang: China "nanosecond behind"

    34:22 September 29th export sanctions expansion

    35:51 November 1st deadline explained

    36:27 What would you tell Trump administration?

    38:37 Shorting NASDAQ and AI bubble thesis

    40:01 OpenAI's revenue vs spending problem

    43:44 Technology plateau concerns

    46:09 AI bubble meets US-China tensions

    47:06 Risk management for short positions

    49:15 Key catalysts: November 1st & earnings guidance

    52:31 What keeps David up at night

    53:13 Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine concern

    55:03 Final thoughts and where to find David

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