“Without an anchor in biological reality, laws based on ’sex’ become meaningless and justice cannot be served.” So wrote evolutionary biologist Colin Wright.

Jill Ovens, National Secretary and Co-Leader of the Women’s Rights Party, responds to the ruling of an Australian Judge that sex is changeable in a case involving ‘gender identity’.

And common-sense rules mightily in her favour.

Plus, exactly five years to the day after we interviewed Behnam Ben Taleblu on the Middle East, Iran in particular, he returns with much insight into the current crisis – or should that be crises.

As always, Mrs Producer joins us in the Mailroom.

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Last Friday Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith announced the new Chief of the Human Rights Commission.

As always, there will be disagreement over the appointment. Dr Stephen Rainbow brings broad experience to the task before him.

Controversy is no stranger. After an hour of discussion, you’ll have a good idea of Rainbow’s stance on some critical issues that, like it or not, influence the society in which we live.

We make comment on corporate involvement in social activism; for example, "diversity, equity and inclusion”, which has become a minefield for companies.

And we visit The Mailroom with Mrs Producer.

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Robert MacCulloch has a resume to be envied.

He began his tertiary education at the University of Auckland, continued it at London School of Economics and Princeton University,

He was Director of the PhD Program at Imperial College London. He has been awarded numerous prizes along the way, and returned to NZ twelve years ago.

He is Professor of Macroeconomics at Auckland University and publishes widely, including his own site, Down To Earth Kiwi.

And in spite of his career success he appears modest, but with the ability and intent to ruffle feathers.

This was a wide ranging and very enjoyable discussion.

And we finish of with The Mailroom with Mrs Producer.

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