Ben Dixon of the Union of Orthodox Journalists joined me to discuss the UOC and OCU schism, the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra, and Orthodoxy in America.

Two million people flood central Tehran and an American reporter says he felt safe—so what else about Iran, the protests, and the path to war have we been getting wrong? We open with a vivid, on-the-ground account of Iran’s national day, where politics look more like a citywide festival than a fever dream of chaos, and where conversations about U.S. policy run surprisingly deep. That lived reality sets the stage for a tougher conversation about how narratives harden: claims of mass killings, allegations of organized provocateurs, and the media scaffolding that turns moral outrage into quiet consent for a wider war.

From there we dig into the power dynamics driving escalation. When leaders boast “we attacked first,” and lawmakers argue that an ally’s actions leave Washington “no choice,” the question becomes unavoidable: who actually holds the veto over U.S. war decisions? We examine joint command structures, donor-entangled negotiators, and a Congress that delayed War Powers votes until after strikes began—signals of a constitutional breakdown where authorization lags behind action. Add in a troubling pattern where negotiations serve as cover for surprise attacks and assassinations, and the credibility of diplomacy itself starts to fray.

Finally, we confront how the character of warfare is shifting. Precision stocks deplete; gravity bombs abound. Civilian-dense targets reenter the strike list. War games that once predicted disaster for a U.S.–Iran fight never assumed normalized mass-civilian harm or casual talk of tactical nuclear use. With missiles and drones already exacting real costs across the region, the margin for miscalculation narrows. We ask what escalation looks like if battlefield losses mount, and why Hebrew-language hints of a shocking “surprise” should alarm every policymaker and voter. If you care about media truth, constitutional limits, and the difference between deterrence and drift, this conversation offers a clear-eyed map of where we are—and where we might be headed. Subscribe, share with a friend who follows foreign policy, and leave a review telling us what part of the narrative you’re rethinking.

A war launched with shifting reasons and sliding timelines is a warning sign, not a strategy. We sit down with former Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski to examine how the U.S.–Iran confrontation veered from consent to chaos in days: bungled evacuations, brittle base defenses, and a communications vacuum that can’t cover for poor planning. Karen draws a sharp line from the Iraq playbook—months of theater and “evidence”—to today’s improvisation, arguing that when leaders skip the work of persuasion, they often skip the work of preparation too.

We unpack the divergence between U.S. national interests and the aims of regional allies who gain from fragmentation rather than stability. From alleged false flags to decapitation strikes that harden, not break, an adversary’s will—especially during sacred seasons—Karen explains why social cohesion, religion, and memory matter in war as much as missiles and jets. We probe the culture inside the Pentagon, where candor fades as rank rises, and how that dynamic leaves troops exposed in trailers instead of layered defenses while press briefings promise “every precaution.”

The conversation gets unflinching about costs: industrial limits that can’t sustain a long fight, political timelines that breed wishful thinking, and a post-failure push for massive “rebuild” budgets that reward the very errors that caused the losses. Yet there’s a path forward. We chart a reset built on real national security—clear objectives, lawful authority, matched means, and diplomacy that lowers the premium on force. If America wants fewer funerals and fewer blank checks, it needs consent, competence, and clarity at the core of policy.

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Scott interviews author and scholar Robert Pape about the insights he’s gained from his decades of extensive research into the strategic effectiveness of air power in war. Pape argues that, while modern precision bombs are remarkable at carrying out their tactical functions, they alone are not enough to win wars. And further, the obsession with tactical bombing campaigns can distract decision-makers from the political dynamics that primarily determine how wars end.

Discussed on the show:

• Bombing to Win: Air Power and Coercion in War by Robert A. Pape
• The Escalation Trap

Robert A. Pape is Professor of Political Science and Director of the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats and the author of Bombing to Win: Air Power and Coercion in War. Follow him on Twitter @ProfessorPape

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Scott interviews Matthew Hoh about an article he just wrote debunking the old lie, that is being pushed once again, that the Iranian government helped kill hundreds of American soldiers by supplying critical parts for armor-piercing roadside IEDs. He and Scott also discuss how insane Trump’s decision to attack Iran is.

Discussed on the show:

• “They Are Still Lying About Iraq” (Antiwar.com)
• The Occupation: War and Resistance in Iraq by Patrick Cockburn
• “Iraq War II, Part 10: Soda Straws and EFPs” (Substack)

Matthew Hoh is associate director at the Eisenhower Media Network and formerly worked for the U.S. State Department. Hoh received the Ridenhour Prize Recipient for Truth Telling in 2010. Subscribe to his Substack and follow him on Twitter @MatthewPHoh

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War rarely begins with a single decision; it grows from motives, misreads, and momentum. We sit down with Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson to map how a promised era of “no new wars” gave way to a high-stakes confrontation with Iran that could redraw the strategic landscape. He unpacks an unsettling mix of incentives—profit for well-connected investors, donor appeasement, and domestic distraction—that, layered atop alliance politics with Israel, pushed Washington onto an escalation ladder with few exit ramps.

We walk through the hard realities of deterrence, from Netanyahu’s saber-rattling and nuclear ambiguity to the very real prospect of great-power entanglement. If a nuclear-armed state strikes a non-nuclear Iran, global norms shatter and condemnation surges, while Russia and China, already tightening ties to Tehran, weigh their leverage. Wilkerson explains why even “limited” nuclear use becomes a civilization-scale risk once the United States, Russia, and China—each with thousands of advanced warheads—are forced into a confrontational posture. That alone should demand humility and restraint.

Beyond headlines about missiles and speeches, the logistics are grim. Iran’s layered strategy of cheap drones and rockets is designed to drain expensive Patriot and naval interceptors, opening windows for heavier strikes. Maritime chokepoints—Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb—become economic pressure valves, where selective disruption could upend oil flows, food shipments, and global trade. Quiet diesel-electric submarines operating in the acoustically favorable North Arabian Sea complicate any escort mission and raise the chance of a sudden, costly loss. And talk of U.S. ground forces? A recipe for a grinding, urban-and-mountain war that repeats the most painful lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan.

We close on the long tail: how mass casualties, perceived impunity, and widening fronts unify otherwise divided communities, supercharge extremist recruitment, and tempt desperate states toward nuclear proliferation. Power isn’t just force; it’s legitimacy, alliances, and foresight. If we want stability, we have to rebuild credibility with clear aims, disciplined strategy, and diplomacy that matches the stakes. If this conversation moved you, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest question about de-escalation—we’ll tackle it in a future show.

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Daniel Davis joined the show for a quick rundown on the war Trump just launched on Iran. He and Scott talk about what’s happened so far and where things may go from here.

Discussed on the show:

• Daniel Davis / Deep Dive

Daniel Davis did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan during his time in the army. He is a Senior Fellow at Defense Priorities and is the author of the reports “Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leaders’ Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort” and “Go Big or Go Deep: An Analysis of Strategy Options on Afghanistan.” Find him on Twitter @DanielLDavis1and subscribe to his YouTube Channel.

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Scott interviews Andy Schoonover, the CEO of CrowdHealth, about the business he started to offer an alternative to our terrible government-warped healthcare market.

Discussed on the show:

• CrowdHealth
• “Bitter Pill: Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us” (Time Magazine)

Andy Schoonover is the Founder and CEO of CrowdHealth.

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