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Jason Jones of the Vulnerable People Project returns to the show to give Scott an update on how his organization is working to rescue and rehabilitate the people impacted directly by the escalating violence the Israeli government and Israeli settlers are unleashing across the Middle East.

Discussed on the show:

• “Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say” (Scientific American)

Jason Jones is a film producer, author, activist, popular podcast host, and dedicated human rights worker. And he is the founder and president of The Vulnerable People Project. Subscribe to his Substack.

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Scott interviews Dan Vergano of Scientific American about an article he wrote exposing how scientifically absurd the claim that Iran was close to even having the ability to fully weaponize the enriched Uranium they possessed was when Washington and Tel Aviv launched this war.

Discussed on the show:

• “Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say” (Scientific American)

Dan Vergano is senior editor, Washington, D.C., at Scientific American. He has previously written for Grid News, BuzzFeed News, National Geographic and USA Today. He is chair of the New Horizons committee for the Council for the Advancement of Science Writing and a journalism award judge for both the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.

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Scott interviews Patrick Pillow about Anatomy of a Regime Change, the series he’s writing on the so-called Color Revolutions. While Iraq and Afghanistan get the most attention, the majority of Washington-backed regime change attempts since the end of the Cold War have taken the form of these CIA-organized political revolutions. Scott and Pillow walk through the specifics of several examples and discuss the importance of this often overlooked aspect of American foreign policy.

Discussed on the show:

• Libertarian Overwatch
• The New Cold War: Revolutions, Rigged Elections, and Pipeline Politics in the Former Soviet Union by Mark A. MacKinnon

Patrick Pillow runs Libertarian Overwatch on Substack.

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John and I continue reading and commentary of Rules for Radicals.

Joe Kent, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, has resigned in protest over the Iran war, becoming the first senior official to break ranks. In his resignation, Kent stated bluntly that Iran posed no “imminent threat” to the United States — directly contradicting the administration’s justification for military action.

A resignation letter from inside Trump’s national security world drops a bombshell claim: Iran posed no imminent threat, and the rush into war was fueled by pressure from Israel and a powerful pro-war lobby in the United States. We take the letter seriously, line by line, because it puts the core question on the table that Washington tries to dodge, who is steering US foreign policy when the stakes are life, death, and a wider Middle East war.

We also talk about the blowback. Tulsi Gabbard posts support for the war, even though opposing “forever wars” has been central to her political identity, and we unpack what that says about loyalty, ambition, and the limits of dissent inside an administration. Then we address Trump’s response, including his claims about the Iran nuclear deal and why so many experts argue the 2015 agreement imposed real constraints through inspections and verification. If you care about Iran nuclear weapons, sanctions relief, and the actual mechanics of nuclear diplomacy, this part matters.

Finally, we break down the media messaging war, including Ben Shapiro’s reaction, and why dismissing everything as “conspiracy” is not a substitute for evidence. We zoom out to the bigger picture: congressional war powers, misinformation campaigns, and the dangerous lesson wars can teach targeted states, that only a nuclear deterrent prevents regime change. Subscribe, share, and leave a review, then tell us what you think: who is really driving this war, and what would ending it require?

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Scott brings Larry Johnson back on the show three weeks after his last appearance, where Johnson predicted the war with Iran hours before it kicked off. Scott and Johnson examine what’s happened, dig into who’s really calling the shots here, address some of the nonsensical talking points used to make the Iranians out as a unique evil and anticipate what the global consequences of this war will be.

Discussed on the show:

• “​​The Failure of US and Israeli Air Defense” (Sonar21)

Larry C. Johnson is a former CIA officer and intelligence analyst, and a former planner and advisor at the US State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. Follow his analysis at Sonar21.

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Scott interviews Joe Kent, the former director of the US National Counterterrorism Center, about what drove him to resign. Kent explains how he saw the Israelis mislead Trump about an Iranian nuclear threat and the supposed fragility of the regime. He also backs up some of the widely attacked claims in his resignation letter about Israeli involvement in getting the US into previous wars in the region, reflects on what the real goals of the Israeli government are with this war, sheds light on Scott’s concerns about significant blowback terrorism in the US and more.

Discussed on the show:

• Kent’s letter of resignation

Joe Kent is a retired Army Special Forces soldier who served as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center in Trump’s second term until he resigned in 2026 over the war with Iran. Follow him on Twitter @joekent16jan19

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