Just a test as I migrate to Spotify for Podcasters

• Roy's regrets as a pastor when interacting with a member with bipolar disorder
• Kimberly's vulnerable recounting of some manic episodes
• The temptation to argue someone out of a distorted reality
• The healing properties of sleep, and the safety that allows for deep sleep
• The road to mental stability, and the supportive people who journeyed with her
• The wonderful experience of authentic weakness in the presence of Jesus
• Do medication and therapy help?
• Living and thriving with mental illness

[Warning: This episode contains discussion of suicidality. Please use discretion when listening.]

Wilson and Roy share an intimate conversation with Sean Fabros about his experience with depression and suicidality. Some talking points include:

• Anger towards life and injustice
• Pressure within the family to be (or not be) a certain way
• The pain of rejection
• Feeling isolated from friends and lacking a sense of belonging
• Questioning life
• Feeling invisible and unimportant
• The therapy experience
• Plans to end my life
• How God showed up and showed me a different type of death that leads to Life

Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: 988

Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:

SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

• The case for accountability groups

• Paul Kelly's 5 column plan

• Practicing honesty is part of recovery. Ministry leaders must lead the way.
  

• Our hope for the Church to be gracious to those who truly want to heal.

• We had no one to coach us through our emotions, and this created consequences in adulthood.

  
  

We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you!

Special thanks to Paul Kelly for teaching me the 5 Column Plan http://www.paulkellycounseling.com

Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]
Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]
Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:

SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

• How many pastors do we think have a sexual addiction?
• How do pastors preach so well and lead so well, yet have this huge secret life?
• Are there yellow flags in "spotting" a sexual addict in ministry leadership?
• If people are getting saved and ministry is thriving because of a pastor's leadership, is their sexual addiction the necessary blood payment since it's their outlet for stress?
• What should we be asking God to do in this worldwide situation?

We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you!

Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]
Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]
Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:

SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim dive into part one of the topic of sexual addiction. Some of our talking points:

• Confessing porn viewing, masturbation, and other sexual behaviors can feel as difficult as confessing murder.
• There are very few church onramps for talking about sexual addiction.
• What enabled Wilson and Roy to talk more openly about it?
• Is masturbation really that bad? What's a better way to phrase this question?
• How many in the church engage in compulsive sexual behavior?
• What are some ways to address sexual addiction in the church?
• Stages of Faith (http://www.janethagberg.com/critical-journey-book.html)
• Self Guided Sobriety Group 90 Day Challenge (https://www.newlegacycounseling.com/self-guided-sobriety-group/)

We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you!

Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:

SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson and Roy start a new series on Mental Health. We first address Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder. We hope our conversation helps raise awareness and compassion for adults and kids who struggle to focus, to stay still, and who are unfairly labeled as lazy or dumb. We hope something we share helps you feel like there are others in the same boat as you!

Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:

SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]

Wilson Wang and Roy Kim continue their series focusing on the topic of Relationships. In this episode, Jenn Hsu joins to talk about underrated qualities in a partner. Some of our talking points:

• We say we want to marry a Christian, but what does that really mean?
• Does your partner know how to negotiate well? Do you know how to negotiate well? Does it feel like you both have an equal voice?
• When beauty and accomplishments don't matter anymore, will you want to spend decades on end with this person?

As always, we hope that something you hear helps you feel like you're not alone, that there are others in the same boat as you.

Drop us a line: thesameboatpod@gmail.com

Follow Jenn Hsu on Instagram: @homeneathome_IG

Produced by Clayton Yip [@yipster_hipster]

Logo by Hyeyoon Chong [@hye.img]

Music by Nathan Baldwin

Wilson Wang is lead pastor of Renew Church OC (www.renewchurchoc.com) and author of the "Called to Be" series and "The Adulting Journal" (www.calledtobeproject.com). You can listen to his sermons here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/renew-church-oc/id1038985827

Roy Kim can be found on social media @thisisroykim

Other podcasts:
SA Speakeasy [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sa-speakeasy/id1438434927]

New Therapist FAQ [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-therapist-faq/id1514669839]