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The Weekly Call

The Weekly Call

De: Amer Abu Shakra Austin Trudeau and John Morgan III
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The Weekly Call is a conversational podcast hosted by three young business owners. Amer, Austin, and John provide insight into guiding philosophies and perspectives, and how they directly relate to the operation of a business.Amer Abu Shakra, Austin Trudeau, and John Morgan III Economía Gestión y Liderazgo Liderazgo
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  • Ep 373 | Hiring for Intrinsic Traits
    Jun 29 2026


    • Coaching Model Shift: Austin's company is moving from a uniform, cohort-based coaching model to an individualized one. This is driven by rapid growth (20→32 franchises) and a more diverse franchisee base that requires tailored support.

    • Hiring for Intrinsic Traits: John's experience shows coaching character traits (e.g., industriousness) is ineffective. He now hires for intrinsic motivation by observing candidates over time, ensuring their life story logically leads to the role.

    • The Nature of Change: A core debate emerged on whether fundamental character traits can change. The consensus was that while external circumstances and habits are malleable, intrinsic nature is largely fixed, making it critical to hire for the right traits from the start.

    • AI for Data Analysis: Austin plans to use AI to analyze complex data (e.g., 80 weekly appointment cancellations) that is too time-consuming for manual review, aiming to uncover actionable insights.

    • Austin's company has grown from 20 to 32 franchises this year, creating a "coaching fit challenge."

    • Problem: The previous uniform coaching model is ineffective for the new, diverse franchisee base (e.g., retired law enforcement, property management).

    • Solution: Implement individualized coaching using behavioral assessments like Predictive Index (PI) to tailor support to each franchisee's unique needs.

    • New Coaching Structure:

      • General Coaches: Provide holistic support.

      • Subject Matter Experts (SMEs): Act like an IT team, assigned to franchisees for specific, unsolvable challenges (e.g., lead gen).

    • The discussion pivoted to the philosophy of personal change and its implications for hiring.

    • John's Hiring Philosophy:

      • "Biography Model": Hire only when the role is a logical next chapter in a candidate's life story, ensuring it's an upgrade.

      • Focus on Task-Obsession: Prioritize candidates obsessed with their craft over those who are more philosophical about work.

      • Observation Over Interviews: Develop long-term relationships to observe consistent character traits.

    • The Debate on Change:

      • John's View: Fundamental character traits (e.g., industriousness) are fixed after age 25. Coaching is ineffective for altering these traits, making hiring for the right fit paramount.

      • Amer's View: While intrinsic nature is stable, habits and responses to stimuli are malleable. Progress is measured by reducing negative reactions over time.

      • Austin's View: Both genetics and controllable factors (diet, exercise) are important. The focus should be on what can be controlled.

    • Mental Models for Perspective:

      • "Lower Expectations": Disappointment often stems from unrealistic expectations, not the situation itself.

      • "Hope Can Kill": Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning shows that false hope can be fatal; survival depends on accepting reality and focusing on what can be controlled.


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    1 h y 26 m
  • Ep 372 | John's Strategic Differentiation
    Jun 22 2026

    Key Takeaways

    • In-House Model Wins: John's shift to an in-house labor model created a "flywheel" (control → experience → premium → better labor), enabling market share growth from competitors using the subcontractor model.

    • Strategic Differentiation: John embedded a free, premium color consulting service into his quotes. This forces competitors to charge for a lesser version, creating a structural advantage that makes his value proposition superior.

    • Sales Process Innovation: Austin's Deckify franchise uses free 3D designs to make sales consultative and exciting, reducing reliance on individual salesmanship and raising customer investment willingness.

    • Compensation & Alignment: True employee alignment comes from equity purchased at fair market value, not stock options. This ties an employee's capital to the business's problems, creating a shared interest in success.

    • John's business grew nearly 4x in a shrinking market by shifting from a subcontractor model to a specialized in-house team.

    • Subcontractor Model:

      • Pros: Flexible labor pricing (price-taker), lower overhead.

      • Cons: Limited control over customer experience, difficulty justifying premium prices.

    • In-House Model:

      • Pros: Full control over customer experience, enables premium pricing, creates a "flywheel."

      • Cons: Higher overhead, labor costs lag market downturns.

    • The "Flywheel" Effect:

      • Control → Superior customer experience

      • Experience → Premium pricing power

      • Pricing → Ability to attract better labor

      • Labor → Reinforces superior experience

    • John's strategy is to create structural advantages competitors cannot match without his scale.

    • Premium Color Consulting:

      • Service: A full-time consultant guides clients from inspiration to final color selection using large physical paint swatches on-site.

      • Cost: ~$90k/year salary + ~$20k in testers, embedded into all quotes.

      • Impact: Competitors must charge $150–$400 for a lesser service, making John's free offering a clear value advantage.

    • Market Share Tactics:

      • Warranty: A no-questions-asked policy is treated as a marketing expense to build trust.

      • Commercial Market: John uses cutthroat pricing on strata jobs to drive gross profit dollars and occupy competitors with long, labor-intensive projects, reducing their residential capacity.

      • Marketing Costs: High-volume door-knocking and Google Ads bidding raise the cost of customer acquisition for all competitors.

    • Austin's Deckify franchise uses a similar strategy to make sales consultative and less reliant on individual skill.

    • Free 3D Deck Designs:

      • Service: Interactive 3D models of the proposed deck are presented during the quote.

      • Impact: Raises customer excitement and investment willingness (e.g., from a 3/10 to a 9/10), making the sale easier.

    • Goal: Create a process where the product's value is so clear, the "minimum viable person" can succeed, and top performers excel.

    • Problem: Top performers are often underpaid relative to their value, while bottom performers are overpaid.

    • Solution: Align employee incentives with business success through equity.

    • Equity Purchase vs. Stock Options:

      • Stock Options: A non-cash expense that can inflate free cash flow, creating a less direct link to business performance.

      • Fair Market Value Purchase: Requires an employee's own capital, directly tying their financial outcome to the business's problems and creating true shareholder alignment.


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  • Ep 371 | Managing Your Internal State While Coaching
    Jun 15 2026

    Meeting Purpose

    Discussing how to give feedback to high-performing, defensive colleagues.

    • Separate the Person from the Problem: Frame feedback around the "water bottle" (the issue) to avoid activating defensiveness. Use neutral language like "workable" vs. "unworkable" instead of "right" vs. "wrong."

    • Decouple Performance: Unpack "performance" into its component parts (e.g., sales targets + adherence to process). This prevents the person from anchoring to one metric and dismissing feedback on others.

    • Build Relational Capital: Invest in personal conversations ("intimate" vs. "admin") and praise publicly to build trust. Deliver critical feedback privately to avoid triggering face-saving behavior.

    • Manage Internal Friction: Acknowledge that internal and external "friction" (the gap between theory and practice) is constant. The goal is to improve your ability to navigate it, not eliminate it.

    • Scenario: A high-performing colleague (e.g., a top sales rep) makes a costly error (e.g., a quoting mistake) and responds defensively to feedback.

    • Austin's Reaction: Frustration at the person's defensiveness, especially when they are normally receptive.

    • Key Discovery: Austin realized he was applying coaching tools only in formal coaching contexts, not in peer-to-peer colleague interactions.

    • 1. Separate the Person from the Problem

      • "Water Bottle" Analogy: Frame the issue as an object separate from the person.

      • Neutral Language: Use terms like "workable" vs. "unworkable" instead of "right" vs. "wrong."

      • Decouple Performance: Define "performance" beyond a single metric (e.g., sales) to include process adherence, quality, and teamwork.

    • 2. Build Relational Capital

      • Praise Publicly, Reprimand Privately: This avoids triggering face-saving behavior.

      • Personal Conversations: Invest in non-work discussions to build trust.

      • "Admin" vs. "Intimate" Conversations: Be clear on the type of conversation you're having.

    • 3. Manage Your Internal State

      • Decouple Anger from Passion: Reframe your intensity as passion for the person's success.

      • "Angry for you, not at you": A powerful reframe to communicate support.

      • "Help, Hug, or Listen?": Before offering advice, ask yourself what the other person needs.

    • Friction (von Clausewitz): The gap between theory and practice is constant. The goal is to improve your ability to overcome it, not eliminate it.

    • Relatability: Leaders should selectively share their own struggles to be more human and relatable, avoiding an "impossible ideal" that discourages the team.

    • Coaching Permission: Coaching is most effective when the other person has granted permission.

    • Austin: Apply the feedback framework (water bottle, neutral language, decoupling performance) in future colleague conversations.

    • Austin: Proactively build relational capital through personal conversations and public praise.

    • Austin: Practice reframing internal frustration as passion for the other person's success.


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    1 h y 20 m
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