Tyler Andrews is a good friend with whom I’ve done trips with to Peru, Ecuador, and most recently, the Atacama Desert of Chile where we climbed up to almost 20,000 feet. Ty was a self-described high school nerd musician who went on to be an average D3 cross country runner. After battling depression, Ty dedicated himself to becoming a pro mountain runner, which has seen him set numerous FKTs on some of the most iconic tall peaks in the world, including Aconcagua, Kilimanjaro, and Cotopaxi. One recent FKT in the Himalayas has been commemorated in the very cool short film “9 Hours on Manaslu” that you can watch on YouTube and is definitely worth 27 minutes of your time. To show his breadth, Ty also holds the record for the Leadville Marathon and has run in the U.S. Olympic marathon trials. He is a La Sportiva-sponsored athlete and is founder of the Chaski Endurance Collective, which coaches ultramarathoners. Which all leads us to this riveting WASP appearance, on which we chat about his recent attempts to set the FKT for running up Mt. Everest, both with and without supplemental oxygen. How incredible does that sound? I won’t ruin the story for you, but Ty will talk about the what, when, how, and why for this audacious project and all of the logistics and challenges involved. For some really great content that gets very granular about how Ty did this, I highly recommend you go listen to his 21-part podcast series called Ty’s Training: Talking with my Dad. It’s fascinating hearing some of the innovative methods Ty used to train for this quest that pushed him harder than he’s ever been challenged before. I’m sure you’ll love this story.

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One of the most badass racers I know is Kat Edwards Anderson. She has been on the WASP twice before, most recently on episode #327 in January, chatting about her runs at the Sedona Canyons 125 and the Moab 240. I first met her in Chile in March, 2024, where she impressively conquered many new challenges for her in the high Atacama Desert. She built on these experiences by overcoming blisters on her feet, menstrual cycle irregularities, heat, and mental hurdles to get on the podium at Moab. In this episode, Kat shares some great insights on her run in May at the Cocodona 250, where she finished as the 6th female. Kat took many of the lessons from Moab, along with input from her coach, Tyler Andrews, to dial in the minutiae that is required to have success at such a grueling race. Kat shares much about the custom-designed gear she used to suit her needs, and the many very sound practices that she employed for Cocodona. Naturally, there were uncontrollables like the weather, and once again, her cycle. Most notably, she generously shares her mental battles through the race, and how her crew and her faith both came through for her to get to a finish line that at times seemed improbable. This is a great chat inside the mind of a tough, focused endurance beast of a runner. Next up for Kat is some “speedwork” as she comes out here to Colorado to slay the Leadville Trail 100.

Kat Edwards
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Instagram @kat.elizabeth_
For coaching inquiries: www.chaski.run

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This is a classic WASP comeback story in a different kind of direction. Alex Neist is a former college and pro quarterback who seemingly had it all post-football – a thriving business career and great family – and then had it all fall apart because of his snoring. It’s true, snoring. Alex found an unlikely answer with mouth taping, which he had to find on his own because he realized our healthcare system didn’t espouse it because there isn’t nearly the profit with it available to providers as, say, recommending meds or a CPAP machine. This kicked in his entrepreneurial spirit. Alex’s philosophy toward starting a business is to identify a problem you’re having and then provide a solution that others can also use to solve that issue. That led him to found Hostage Tape. He will explain to you why the provocative name. Alex says the change in one’s sleep quality, and indeed in the quality of their life, is almost immediate when someone starts mouth taping. He also explains here why there is no reason to be concerned about not being able to breathe while using the product, and about a lot of other unexpected benefits that have made improvements in users’ oral health, workouts, and yes, relationships. Hostage Tape now has hundreds of thousands of customers, some as well-known as Joe Rogan, and Alex’s goal is to help one million people sleep better using Hostage Tape’s products, which include nasal strips that have become all the rage these days for athletes, include many in the track world. Before you dismiss this as woo-woo stuff, definitely give this episode with Alex a listen – it will awaken you – or just the opposite of that – to a very simple, possibly life-changing, solution.

Alex Neist

hostagetape.com

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Colorado has always been known as a distance running hotbed, and some amazing runners have come out of our high school ranks. This episode’s guests are no exception – with an added twist. Bobby Kiesewetter, from Golden View Academy, a Class 2A school in Golden understandably was very concerned when his airway would shut down while he was running, making it impossible to breathe. Perplexed doctors suspected asthma and prescribed inhalers, but to no avail. Bobby happened to see a social media post from another local runner, Benji Anderson, who had experienced the same thing and had been diagnosed with Exercise-Induced Laryngeal Obstruction, also commonly called vocal cord dysfunction. Benji connected Bobby with the doctor right here in Denver who had treated him at National Jewish Hospital, which specializes in lung and breathing research. Through extensive treatment and exercises, both young men have learned to control their breathing issue and achieved great results in their high school careers. Bobby swept the Colorado Class 2A 800, 1600, and 3200 meter titles, each by wide margins, including setting a state meet record in the 1600 of 4:17.84. He will continue his running career at Division 2 Fort Lewis College in Durango, Colorado. Benji, who ran for Mountain Vista High School in Highlands Ranch, has a long list of accolades, including winning the 2024 Class 5A cross country title, is a two-time champion of the prestigious Liberty Bell Invitational, both times running the 5K course in a blazing 14:48, and has been top five in the state multiple times in the 800, 1600, and 3200. His best times include an 8:46.15 in the 3200 at Arcadia, and a 4:08.03 1600 at the New Balance indoors in Boston. He has a couple of big upcoming races before he heads off to Notre Dame this fall. Among these is the Festival of Miles this week in which a star-studded high school field will be going after sub-4:00 times. This is a great chat with a couple of very nice young men who have overcome some concerning challenges, have learned about the considerable power of the running community, and who will have many more successes in the future.

Benji Anderson

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Bobby Kiesewetter

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David always had a deep appreciation for alternative and regenerative medicine. He and I have both had guests here who understand how broken our “sick care” system is and have created new pathways for those who want to take control of their health in ways the American system won’t allow. One such pioneer is Jay Campbell, co-founder of BioLongevity Labs. Jay’s lifelong mission is to inspire and empower others to optimize their health, reverse aging, and unlock their true human potential – physically, mentally, and emotionally. In this dynamic chat, he and I talk about what’s going on in the U.S. state of health, and Jay gives great insights into the benefits of balancing hormones, most notably testosterone, for both men, and in underrated ways, for women, too. Once that balance is achieved, then one can potentially take the next steps into administering therapeutic peptides that can transform health, from cellular regeneration, to anti-aging, losing fat, hormonal balance, and beyond. Really intriguing topics on which Jay certainly raised my understanding. You’ll gain a lot in this episode from Jay’s immense store of knowledge.

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www.biolongevitylabs.com

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I have been amused that 200-mile races have become a thing, and some now even call 100-milers a “speed event.” But now Destination Races, which hosts a series of 200-mile races has created the Arizona Monster 300 with a cutoff of 170 hours, or just more than 7 days. Good friend of the WASP Kelly Thrush ran its inaugural edition a few weeks ago. You might remember Kelly from WASP episodes #231 and 232 in November, 2022 after he completed 85 miles at the AHR following receiving a liver transplant. That two-part episode is definitely worth a re-listen as he described years of alcohol abuse that led to not only the deterioration of his liver, but alienating most of his family and friends, and put him on the doorstep of death. He awoke from surgery feeling immense gratitude, which has driven his life since then, including the founding of the Gratitude and Grace Foundation, which helps other transplant candidates and recipients navigate the financial hurdles they face. Kelly has created events to support this important mission, including an event that involves climbing laps up and down Mount Tumamoc in Tucson. In this fascinating chat, Kelly describes all aspects of taking on the enormous challenge of the Arizona Monster 300 and what it’s like to be out there on the trail day and night for 7 days, how his wife and crew contributed to his finish, his fueling, sleeping, mental approach, hallucinating, and what it did to his feet. Get ready for a fun adventure!

Kelly Thrush

Gratitude and Grace Foundation

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We haven’t chatted with anyone in Nepal for a couple of weeks, so we thought we’d go back there with Len Forkas, who is heading to Mt. Everest to cap bagging all of the Seven Summits – the tallest peaks on all seven continents. This achievement also brings him a step closer to completing the coveted Explorers’ Grand Slam, which includes the Seven Summits and trekking the last degree of latitude to the North and South Poles. He began his quest in 2013 summitting Kilimanjaro after accomplishing endurance feats like biking the Race Across America. Len does all of this to support a charity he founded called Hopecam, which does amazing work connecting cancer-afflicted kids to their schools and classmates. It was spurred after his own son Matt was diagnosed with leukemia when he was 9, and aside from the daunting treatments, Matt endured the challenge of isolation from his friends. Back in 2002, there was no Facetime or Skype, so Len arranged for a video connection between Matt and his class, and Len noticed what a sea change that was for Matt’s overall outlook, as well as how much it benefitted his classmates to interact with him and help demystify cancer to them. This led to the birth of Hopecam, which began connecting 50 hospitalized kids and led to partnering with St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital and eventually affiliating with 180 hospitals and helping 1000 inspiring kids at a time. A majority of these kids come from Title 1 schools and whose families often can’t afford Internet service. Len has a personal connection with many of these kids, and for this Everest project, he is paired up with a fifth-grader in Louisiana. In this chat, Len talks about how teamwork plays roles in accomplishing both his projects as well as in Hopecam’s important mission for which he is aiming to raise $1,000,000. You’ll also hear about his many other extreme adventures and the preparations for them and about a couple of harrowing episodes he had where divine intervention may have saved his life so he could continue his mission. Len is one of the nicest people with whom I’ve had the pleasure to chat, and this riveting episode is filled with so many great life lessons about humility, teamwork, finding purpose, and listening to and learning from others. He also shares great lessons he’s learned about uniting people to work toward common goals in his book, What Spins the Wheel.

Len Forkas

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His books What Spins the Wheel and Cold Hard Truth are available on Amazon

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Travis Robinson was an active 35-year-old IT project manager, spending much of his leisure time in the outdoors rockclimbing, when he began noticing weakness in his hands, which is not good news for this pursuit. This led to a diagnosis of early-onset Parkinson’s Disease that changed his life. Travis’ response was not one of resignation to a restricted lifestyle, but more of a “Screw you, Parkinson’s” attitude. That is evidenced in the theme of a podcast called I’m Not Dead Yet he co-hosts with Judy Yaros, whose husband died of the disease in 2020. Together, they talk about life adjustments caused by Parkinson’s and how they are helping those afflicted and their families. But more so, it’s about living their best life. To help others do the same, Travis is very involved with Parkinson’s Community L.A. and the Faces of Parkinson’s Project. One way he keeps physically active is with something called neuroboxing. He’s also deeply engaged in photography, but using old-time cameras with the long, bellows-like lenses and where the photographer stands under a hood. The image is projected onto large-format film and Travis creates finished works on metal and other unique media that have had gallery showings across the country. His work in California’s scenic landscapes evokes Ansel Adams’ dramatic photography from last century. Travis has recently had to use his power of resilience once again as his and his partner’s home burned down in the Eaton fire in January, and they lost everything, including all of his photographic equipment. They saved their pets and vehicles, and not much more. They expect to begin re-building in May, and undaunted, Travis is planning a photographic project in Iceland this summer. You can't help but be inspired by Travis' story!

Travis Robinson

Instagram @mighty_travis

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