• When theists weaponise agnosticism

  • May 4 2023
  • Duración: 4 m
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When theists weaponise agnosticism

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  •  Hi everyone. So I wanted to talk about agnostics. Because we do encounter agnostics a lot. And one of the reasons I wanted to talk about this is because there is a whole lot of kind of misguided enthusiasm for soft religiosity going on. And I'll tell you what I mean by that. Think about what agnostics mean when they say that they're agnostic about the existence of God. You can be agnostic about many things, by the way, if you're undecided about something you're agnostic about it. But agnosticism in general in the philosophic sense means not knowing whether God exists or not.

    So when someone says the rational position is agnostic, it is a little disingenuous because there are a lot of things in life that you can be agnostic about. Do you know for sure that there aren't invisible space dragons orbiting mercury right now? No. Are you agnostic about it? Are you going to say that until I find out definitively that there are no invisible space dragons orbiting mercury right now. I will continue to think that I don't know if there are invisible space dragons orbiting, mercury right now. Right? So when someone says this about God proposition for which there is no evidence. Are they not automatically saying that they are leaning a little bit towards the possibility that it might be true?

    I think very little is said about agnostics actually leaning towards religion. When someone says they're agnostic, they're not actually, you know that they're not actually in the center. They're not actually equidistant from both ends. They are actually closer to the side that says that something like God is real. They're leaning towards the probability or the possibility that God exists. And because they don't have evidence because there can't be any evidence maybe, they like to say that they're agnostics. I find this, the reason I'm talking about this is because there are a lot of people who try to hide their religiosity behind a facade of agnosticism or doubt. A few days ago on my livestream, someone came and said, it's okay. It's good to say that you don't know. It's good to say that you have no idea whether God exists or not. That is the beginning of true knowledge. And this person was absolutely sure...

    he was very happy that I was saying that I don't know. But this person was absolutely sure that God exists and said that he had experienced God. So when it comes to acknowledging and appreciating doubt, or agnosticism, these people are extremely okay with it. Yeah, you have all the doubt in the world. You who are on the side that thinks that we should not believe things without evidence, you should have doubt. I on the other hand have absolute certainty about the fact that the completely illogical claim I'm making about reality is absolutely true.

    And these will also be the people who will say that agnostic atheism is not an actual position, which it is, it is an actual philosophic position. Agnostic atheism means I don't know, therefore I do not believe it is a full circle there. No holes in it. If I don't know something, why would I believe in it?

    Agnosticism only makes sense -at least from my perspective- when it leads to lack of belief. If agnosticism is just agnosticism it is I think veiled religiosity. It is veiled theism. It is a kind of noncommittal belief. If that makes any sense. That's just what I wanted to talk about. Thanks.

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