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What does it take to transition from the adventurous life of a rock lobster diver to the demanding world of law enforcement in remote Australia? Join me, Jason Somerville, on today's episode of Behind the Thin Blue Line as I sit down with Ben Schultz, co-host of the Two Ordinary Cops podcast. Ben shares the intriguing story of how family ties and a recommendation from his uncle led him to join the Northern Territory Police in 2007, swapping diving gear for a badge. From meeting his podcast partner Damien Barb during training to forging a career grounded in camaraderie and mutual support, Ben's journey is a testament to the power of connections in policing.

Ever wondered about the unique challenges faced by officers policing in remote Aboriginal communities? Ben recounts his early days in the force, navigating the non-stop workload and learning from seasoned officers. We explore his experiences in places like Lajamanu and Bamaga, where cultural dynamics and the necessity of building respectful relationships with First Nations communities are paramount. His vivid anecdotes paint a picture of the intense and rewarding nature of serving in such isolated environments, where the practical realities include carrying firearms and dealing with disorganized records.

The complexities of a police career don't stop there. Ben opens up about his rapid progression from constable to acting sergeant, his involvement in specialized units including the Family and Domestic Violence Unit, and significant investigations that marked his early career. We also touch on the personal side of policing—the impact of mandatory relocation policies, the shift in his wife's career to policing, and the emotional weight of her battle with cancer. This heartfelt conversation offers a raw and honest look at the multifaceted life of a police officer, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the human stories behind the badge.

Two Ordinary Cops Podcast can be found here - https://twoordinarycops.com/

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Imagine standing at a regional roadblock in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, when every interaction is tinged with uncertainty and fear. Greg Kingston, a seasoned officer accustomed to handling firearms licensing, found himself reassigned and thrust into high-stress situations. During one domestic disturbance call, a woman’s immediate verbal assault pushed Greg to his limits, revealing how cumulative disrespect has worn down his patience over the years. This episode uncovers the emotional toll that repeated disrespect can take on law enforcement officers, challenging the notion that enduring abuse is just part of the job.

Ever wondered what real police work looks like behind the scenes? Forget the high-octane chases and dramatic arrests you see on TV. Greg takes us on a journey through the painstakingly detailed world of undercover surveillance, sharing a gripping tale from a 2014 operation targeting a drug network in the UK. We explore the strategic maneuvers required to unmask the kingpins and delve into the less glamorous, yet essential, tasks like paperwork and adapting to new technologies. This chapter paints a true-to-life picture of the complexities and challenges faced by officers working to keep our communities safe.

From the streets of Belgium to the cobbled lanes of Bruges, follow us on an international covert surveillance mission filled with twists, turns, and unexpected challenges. As Greg’s team navigates communication glitches and supply shortages, we get a front-row seat to the high-stakes world of international policing. The episode culminates in a dramatic pursuit through Bruges, highlighting the improvisation and quick thinking required in real-time operations. Wrapping up, Greg reflects on his 27-year career and the bittersweet transition to managing a family business, underscoring the profound impact of his experiences in law enforcement. Tune in for an episode rich with raw human emotion, behind-the-scenes stories, and invaluable insights into the complexities of police work.

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What happens when a seasoned UK police officer moves across the globe to Australia? Join us in a compelling discussion with Greg Kingston, who takes us from his early days navigating the high-crime streets of Dover and Dartford to the intense world of surveillance operations. Discover the thrill and rigor of undercover work targeting drug dealers and how Greg's transition into a specialized surveillance team marked a pinnacle in his career.

Greg’s journey doesn’t stop there. Learn about the cultural and operational shifts he experienced when he moved to Australia, and how his communication skills honed in the UK became a valuable asset Down Under. As Greg reflects on his career, he opens up about the emotional toll of policing, the political pressures that come with the badge, and the surprising warmth he encountered in Australian communities.

This episode also exposes the myths and realities of police surveillance, shedding light on the long hours of waiting and the unpredictable nature of the job. Greg shares his personal story of managing stress and trauma through exercise rather than alcohol, offering a raw and heartfelt look at the human side of law enforcement. Join us for an authentic and eye-opening conversation that reveals the true essence of life behind the badge.

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What happens when an undercover cop's meticulously crafted facade comes crashing down? Join us on Behind the Thin Blue Line as Garth Kirkwood shares a gripping tale from his assignment at a luxury island resort. Garth recounts the tension-filled moments when his cover was almost blown by a former acquaintance. This episode sheds light on the intricate challenges and high stakes of undercover work, revealing how even the best-laid plans can be undone by human connections.

But the journey doesn't end there. We transition into the emotional terrain of mental health in law enforcement, exploring the profound impact of PTSD on veterans and first responders. With insights from organizations like Trojans Trek, we delve into the therapeutic retreats that aid in the transition from policing to new careers in IT and firefighting. The discussion highlights the emotional toll of frontline service and underscores the importance of resilience, effective leadership, and positive reinforcement in fostering a supportive environment.

As the conversation broadens, we touch upon the significance of community and support systems in building resilience and personal growth. Early connections through sports and camaraderie in professional settings have played crucial roles in mental well-being, particularly for those in emergency services. We also discuss the evolving dynamics of support within these professions, emphasizing the critical role of peer support officers. Tune in for a heartfelt exploration of the human stories behind the badge, as we underline the importance of understanding and addressing mental health to navigate the complexities of demanding careers.

During this episode Garth talks about Trojans Trek. More information can be found here - https://trojanstrek.com/

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What drives someone to leave their childhood dream of working with computers behind to pursue a high-stakes career in law enforcement? Join us on "Behind the Thin Blue Line" as we sit down with Garth Kirkwood, a former Queensland police officer and undercover agent who now serves as a firefighter. Garth shares his compelling journey, from overcoming childhood bullying to his motivations for joining the police force, and the unexpected twists that led him there. His unique perspective sheds light on the often unseen camaraderie and rivalry between police officers and firefighters, revealing a shared commitment to community service that transcends professional boundaries.

Garth takes us through the rigorous process of police training and his early career's defining moments. From cleaning up after devastating floods in Charters Towers to dealing with personal hardships like gastroenteritis, Garth's resilience and adaptability stand out. He recounts his first postings in Maryborough and Harvey Bay and his unexpected foray into undercover work. These experiences not only honed his skills but also shaped his passion for law enforcement, preparing him for the challenges and complexities of life as an undercover agent.

In one of the most gripping parts of the episode, Garth opens up about his undercover assignments, including a memorable operation involving stolen bikes. He discusses the psychological and emotional toll of undercover work, the importance of keeping a light-hearted demeanor, and the profound impact on personal relationships. Transitioning back to uniformed duty presented its own set of challenges, from managing personal relationships to dealing with the stress of re-integration. Garth's candid reflections provide a raw and authentic look at the human side of law enforcement, highlighting the dedication and sacrifices made by those who serve to protect our communities.

During this episode Garth talks about Trojans Trek. More information can be found here - https://trojanstrek.com/

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Ever wondered what it's like to walk the precarious line between law enforcement and the shadows of secrecy? Join me, Jason Somerville, as I unmask my true identity in the final episode of "Whisper in the Shadows." As a former undercover cop with the Queensland Police Service from 1991 to 2003, I'll share my journey from covert operations to the candid storytelling that birthed this podcast. By recounting my personal struggles and triumphs, I aim to shed light on the psychological toll policing can take, while also offering a glimpse into the future of our podcast, which will evolve into "Behind the Thin Blue Line" to address broader issues within the law enforcement community.

Curious about life beyond the badge? Discover how I transitioned from police work to an entirely new career path, exploring roles as a travel agent, tour guide, and eventually finding success in recruitment. Imagine leading tours through China, Mongolia, Russia, and South America, utilizing skills honed during years of undercover work. This episode highlights the adaptability of policing skills and serves as a beacon of hope for officers seeking new horizons. Your stories matter too, and I encourage listeners to share their experiences and join the conversation at whisperintheshadowspodcast@gmail.com. Together, let's break the silence and support each other in finding fulfillment beyond the uniform.

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Ever wondered what it's like to live life undercover, balancing danger and deception at every turn? Join me, Michael Bates, as I take you through my rollercoaster journey in the latest episode of Whisper in the Shadows. Imagine securing a room at Jodie's place, only to face the peculiar challenges of maintaining a cover, like navigating a tense market scene with your spouse. Experience a nail-biting moment when you're offered drugs and must decide between blowing your cover or simulating drug use. Each scenario sheds light on the complex balance and quick thinking required to stay one step ahead in the undercover world.

But that's not all. Picture yourself trying to infiltrate a small-town drug network, dealing with awkward locals, unruly teens, and a young weed dealer named Darren. Despite your mission to secure more profitable drugs, you find yourself negotiating a deal for a pound of weed. Finally, just when things start to stabilize, an abrupt call from the covert squad shatters your newfound routine, pulling you back into the unpredictable realm of covert operations. This episode encapsulates the essence of readiness, adaptability, and the sometimes absurd reality of undercover policing. Don't miss this gripping narrative that captures the life of an undercover cop in all its thrilling complexity.

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What if you had to adopt a new identity and integrate into a small community to bring down a criminal network? Join me, Michael Bates, as I recount the tension-filled twists of my final undercover mission. With my two-year tenure coming to an end, an urgent call thrust me into one last covert operation in a regional town. Maintaining my Michael Bates persona, I switched to a maroon Toyota Berliner to remain undetected while infiltrating an organized crime group with help from an informant named Stephen Boy. In this episode, you'll hear how we navigated the labyrinth of challenges, from accommodation woes to Stephen's escalating paranoia, all under the guidance of my seasoned female detective sergeant controller.

Posing as someone's son with a sizable inheritance, I had to seamlessly blend into the close-knit community, balancing odd jobs and even joining the local AFL club despite my lack of experience. The mission hit a critical juncture when Stephen's paranoia nearly blew my cover, leading to a dramatic confrontation. Tune in to experience the anxiety, pressure, and strategic maneuvers that came into play as we worked to dismantle the drug trafficking ring. This episode is packed with suspense and high-stakes drama, a fitting end to my career undercover.

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