As the Emmy window closes, Jordan and Niv recall two historically-based dramas from this year on TV. They discuss 'Mary and George' on Starz, how homosexuality plays a role in the show (8:50) and overall how seriously the show takes its execution (19:01). They touch briefly on some spoilers for the final moments of the sensational program (22:17) before moving on to 'Shogun' on Hulu (35:56). Niv maps out the real-life locations in Japan (44:16) that 'Shogun' spends its time around before detailing the period the show takes place in (46:33). They discuss together the show's acting talent and characters (53:12), and get into spoilers for the show (1:06:04).

For its second year, Zeitgeist checks in on the state of the animation industry. In the first half, Jordan and Niv talk about 'Blue Eyed Samurai'. They Tackle race and identity (06:30), break down the talents behind the series (11:29), animation style (17:48), and tone (26:40). Then, they touch base on 'Scavengers Reign' on Max (now also Netflix). They investigate the state of the industry (46:56), the show's animation style (51:31), themes & influences (55:24), and how ensemble plays a role (01:05:24).

[Editorial Note: You’ll hear some pops and clicks near the front of the episode today from an unresolved recording issue.] Niv and Jordan discuss the 2024 Oscars in relation to a snub, Sofia Coppola’s ‘Priscilla.’ Then, they’re joined by Sam (9:00), who lays the foundation for the work at hand through providing context in our world today. They discuss how Priscilla inspired Lana Del Rey (11:45), Priscilla’s infantilization in relationship to domestic isolation and independence (16:13), and how Coppola wrangles with these topics (24:00). From there, they litigate Elvis’ star power in film (29:43), touch once again on Sofia’s sensibilities (39:09) before ending on why Sofia is one-of-a-kind (42:18). In the second half, Jordan and Niv talk about the two films in relation to one another, the Oscars, and a supposed "Zeitgeist Curse (45:07)," before setting the scene for 'May December (47:43).' They debate which of the two main character is the true protagonist (55:32), they praise the cast (1:07:07), and they discuss whether 'May December is a comedy, and how that genre convention relates to the theatrical traditions of Bertolt Brecht (1:20:22).