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The Beyond Addiction Show

By: The Center for Motivation and Change
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  • The Beyond Addiction show is a weekly podcast hosted by Dr. Josh King where he talks about the evidence-based treatments of substance abuse and other co-occurring behaviors. In his role as Director of Digital and Clinical Service Integration at the Center for Motivation and Change in New York City, Dr. King interviews leaders in the fields of treatment and research, as well as talking to those people who are working to change the conversation around substance use.
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Episodes
  • FAQ About Substance Use with Dr. Josh King
    Jun 22 2022
    Dr. Josh King welcomes you to another episode of The Beyond Addiction Show  Today, Dr. King is not just your host but also your guest, since he is answering listeners’ questions. Listeners are the reason for this podcast and their questions are a priority.   In this episode, Dr. King answers several questions about substance use disorders, how to seek the best treatment, dual diagnosis, Post Acute Withdrawl Symptoms (PAWS), self-care, and Suboxone (how it works and who can use it).   Key Takeaways: [1:06] Question No. 1: How many people qualify for having a substance use disorder and stop using without any treatment? [4:24] Dr. Josh explains the main reasons why most people having a substance use disorder don’t get any treatment. [11:28] Question No. 2: I am four months sober but feel depressed, others are getting better, I have been in therapy and I am on medication, is this a dual diagnosis? [17:22] Dr. King talks about Post Acute Withdrawl Symptoms (PAWS). [21:54] Question No. 3: Where should I start with self-care? [26:12] Dr. King shares practical ways to start practicing self-compassion. [30:14] Question No. 4: How to help the addicted? I have been watching my daughter struggle for 15 years and we tried everything, local help is untrained, and a lot of rehabs are financially motivated, where do you really get help? [37:12] Question No. 5: Is detox the only way to get on suboxone? [44:33] Dr. King lists ways to help a family member who is impacted by someone’s substance use. [47:02] Dr. King talks about the Invitation to Change approach. [47:23] What are the least healthy ways to help someone battling substance use?   Mentioned in this Episode: The Beyond Addiction Show Center for Motivation and Change Center for Motivation and Change on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn   Email Dr. Josh King at beyondaddiction@motivationandchange.com or tweet him at @DocJoshKing   Inside Rehab: The Surprising Truth About Addiction Treatment—and How to Get Help That Works, by Anne M. Fletcher CMC Foundation for Change   Tweetables and Quotes: “Between 21 to 22 million people in the United States qualify as needing a substance use treatment and only 1.4% receive treatment.” — @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing [3:29]   “Two out of five people who perceive they have a substance use disorder, do not get treatment because they feel ambivalent and are not sure if they want to stop; one out of three could not afford treatment.” — @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing [5:38]   “One out of three people who need treatment for substance use won’t get it because of the social stigma associated with substance use disorder and treatment.” — @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing [8:22]   “There is a significant correlation between having mental health diagnosis and a substance use related disorder.” — @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing [14:50]    “If you are trying to take care of somebody else, you have to take care of yourself first.” — @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing [22:39]   “When we reduce isolation, we can get support.” — @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing [28:27]  
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    51 mins
  • Compassionate Parenting with Catherine Taughinbaugh
    Jun 15 2022

    Dr. Josh King welcomes you to another episode of The Beyond Addiction Show 

    Today, Dr. King is talking about the very peculiar matter of how different people handle difficult situations in their lives, some would want to never experience the hardships they went through, and others might have come through traumatic situations with great scars, and yet, they consider each moment a lesson from which they learned.

     

    Dr. King is accompanied in this episode by Catherine Taughinbaugh, who had a daughter who struggled with substance use, and after coming to the other end, she decided she needed to help other parents. Cathy is now a blogger and Certified Parent Coach who has coached parents all over the U.S. on how to help their children. She is also the author of The Compassion Antidote: A Path to Change for You and Your Child Struggling with Substance Use.

     

    Key Takeaways:

    [4:09] What is it like to be a Parent Coach?

    [7:01] Cathy shares her experience with the coaching parents of children struggling with substance use commonly receive until she met the CRAFT approach.

    [8:42] What does Cathy do as a Parent Coach?

    [9:42] What can parents expect to do in a session with Cathy?

    [14:11] Cathy shares her training on top of her lived experience as a mother helping her child who struggled with substance use.

    [18:10] Cathy speaks about the most effective approach from her perspective.

    [20:18] Why did Cathy write her book The Compassion Antidote?

    [25:34] What does compassion have to do with helping someone facing substance use?

    [29:55] Dr. King explains how parents trying to gain more control over their children simply does not work.

    [31:34] Cathy says in her book that parents can retrain themselves to think about substance abuse not so much as a moral failing but rather as a chronic disease.

    [34:35] How does Cathy help families shift to a more compassionate approach?

    [39:01] Cathy suggests to parents how they can start helping their children by changing the conversation.

    [43:30] How can parents start to change the conversation with their children?

     

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    The Beyond Addiction Show

    Center for Motivation and Change

    Center for Motivation and Change on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn

     

    Email Dr. Josh King at beyondaddiction@motivationandchange.com or tweet him at @DocJoshKing

     

    Learn more about CathyTaughinbaugh

     

    Tweetables and Quotes:

    “CRAFT allows parents to help their children in the way they would normally support them, parents want to help their kids.”— Catherine Taughinbaugh @_TheCMC (7:43)

     

    “Trying to gain more control over your children won’t work in helping them with their substance use problem.”— @_TheCMC @DocJoshKing (29:58)

     

    “Parents are just scared and want to get their kids on a better path but they have their own lives and you can’t control everything that is going on.” — Catherine Taughinbaugh @_TheCMC (30:31)

     

    “Think about your child when he or she was younger, that beautiful kid is still there.” — Catherine Taughinbaugh @_TheCMC (33:09)

     

    “Change the conversation, try to stay away from the negativity, and focus on the ways your child is doing well.” — Catherine Taughinbaugh @_TheCMC (39:50)

     

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    49 mins
  • Harm Reduction vs. Abstinence-Only Approaches with Dr. Andrew Tatarsky
    Jun 8 2022
    Dr. Josh King welcomes you to another episode of The Beyond Addiction Show. Today, Dr. King is accompanied by Dr. Andrew Tatarsky, one of the pioneers of Harm Reduction Therapy and the Integrative Harm Reduction Psychotherapy developer.   In this discussion, Dr. King plays the role of “skeptic” to really push Dr. Tatarsky on why Harm Reduction is the way to go over abstinence-only approaches, Dr. Tatarsky also provides some tips and skills on how you can try harm reduction now.   Key Takeaways: [2:50] Dr. Tatarsky shares why this is the moment for Harm Reduction Therapy. [5:43] Does Harm Reduction encourage people to keep using substances? [6:52] Dr. Tatarsky explains the meaning of compassionate pragmatism. [9:15] Harm Reduction offers support to anyone who is ready to start a positive change journey. [10:33] Dr. Tatarsky shares the definition of addiction to explain why Harm Reduction is effective even though it doesn’t stop the use. [12:52] What happens when we increase suffering for those struggling with substance abuse? [14:03] Dr. Tatarsky talks about the supervised injection sites as safe spaces that saved millions of lives around the world. [16:14] Some people believe that what works in Europe does not necessarily have to work in the U.S. Dr. Tatarsky dives deep into his work around the world. [21:01] Dr. Tatarsky shares some eye-opening statistics. [22:08] What happens when someone goes to a supervised injection site? [24:01] Dr. Tatarsky compares the harm reduction approach to the traditional. [25:33] Submit or rebel? Dr. Tatarsky talks about the consequences of assuming one or the other as a response to traditional treatments for substance abuse. [27:10] Harm Reduction opens a safe place, where people can feel respected and heard. [30:35] Dr. Tatarsky once said “I don’t want to see anyone addicted to substances but that doesn’t mean that if that is where someone is I can’t accept it.” [32:04] Dr. Tatarsky shares an analogy that greatly exemplifies why serving each unique individual is a much better approach than expecting everyone to follow the same path in regard to substance abuse. [34:49] Why is it valuable to meet people where they are? [39:56] Offering alternative strategies is part of the Harm Reduction approach. [40:55] Dr. Josh and Dr. Tatarsky talk about the statistics on the effectiveness of the traditional approach. [44:44] There is no straight line to success. [46:16] We cannot control the people we love, nor our clients or patients. [47:10] Dr. Tatarsky explains what Integrative Harm Reduction Psychotherapy is about. [51:46] Assessment as treatment. [54:11] “Better is better.” [56:07] Treatment trauma is real, some people are ignored when seeking help. [57:42] Dr. Tatarsky shares some specific skills and strategies to empower clients to achieve the changes they want to make in their lives: Urge Surfing, Unwrapping the Urge, Find 18 Alternative Choices, and Game Planning. [1:11:24] Dr. Tatarsky shares why having a plan is crucial.   Mentioned in this Episode: The Beyond Addiction Show Center for Motivation and Change Center for Motivation and Change on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn   Email Dr. Josh King at beyondaddiction@motivationandchange.com or tweet him at @DocJoshKing   Center for Optimal Living 6 Step Guide to Positive Change   Tweetables and Quotes: “Harm Reduction emerges in response to the limitations of traditional treatment.” — Dr. Andrew Tatarsky @_TheCMC (3:21)   “The overwhelming majority of people that struggle with drugs and alcohol have not been helped by traditional treatments.” — Dr. Andrew Tatarsky @_TheCMC (3:32)   “We don't have to know the outcome to start supporting people on their healing journeys” — Dr. Andrew Tatarsky @_TheCMC (8:51)   “It is not effective to ask people to just give up their life-saving, coping mechanism before they have an alternative that works better.” — Dr. Andrew Tatarsky @_TheCMC (35:27)  
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    1 hr and 14 mins

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