In this episode, Laurent is joined by Kendrick Dain, a licensed attorney and BASE jumper. They explore the evolving world of BASE jumping, its legal battles, community spirit, and the pursuit of freedom through human flight.

Kendrick is also General Counsel for the advocacy group BASE Access, whose mission is to preserve and open site access on public lands within the United States. Kendrick and Laurent discuss the challenges and hopes of legalizing BASE jumping in national parks, Kendrick’s journey through law and adventure sports, and the pivotal role of community and respect in advancing the future of BASE jumping.

This episode is a dense discussion about the intersection of law, advocacy for our sport, and the culture war the National Park Service has waged against BASE jumping. https://baseaccessfund.org/

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For more info visit exitpopintpodcast.com Producers: Laurent Frat, Matt Blank, Mark Stockwell Host: Matt Blank Sound mixing: Mark Stockwell Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats Timestamps:

00:41 Exploring the Legal Landscape of BASE Jumping

01:01 Advocacy, Culture, and the Future of BASE Jumping

00:00 Welcome to Exit Point: Diving into BASE Jumping Culture

00:28 Meet Kendrick Dain: Attorney and BASE Jumper

01:01 The Legal Landscape of BASE Jumping in the US

03:10 Exploring the Challenges of Legalizing BASE Jumping

03:46 Kendrick's Journey: From Legal Troubles to BASE Jumping

12:35 The Evolution of BASE Jumping and Its Community

17:59 Navigating Legal Access to National Parks for BASE Jumping

32:22 The Administrative Procedures Act and Its Impact

48:52 Exploring the Wilderness Act and Its Impact

49:26 The Intricacies of Rulemaking and Executive Orders

51:29 The Role of Tenure in Federal Employment

54:48 Navigating the Legal Landscape for Base Jumping

55:03 The Struggle for Base Jumping Permits

01:01:02 Cultural Evolution and Legal Challenges in Base Jumping

01:06:19 The Path to Legalizing Base Jumping in National Parks

01:22:34 Community and Personal Motivations Behind Base Jumping

01:26:41 Legal Advice for Base Jumpers in Gray Areas

01:32:09 Closing Thoughts on the Future of Base Jumping

In this episode, Matt Blank talks with Avery Badenhop, Dennis McGlynn, and Harry Parker, who were known during the 90s as the “three-headed dragon” of BASE and founders of the infamous Team Ill Vision. This team has been a timeless model for outlaw extreme sports gangs living an endless summer lifestyle. The leader of Team Ill Vision, Avery, is the quintessential counterculture athlete, creating a unique lifestyle that would inspire generations of jumpers to go all in and totally cut away from the mainstream. Dennis McGlynn, one of the first jumpers to perform BASE stunts for film and television, is also a pioneer of manufacturing BASE-specific gear. He was one of the original FJC instructors and the first to be prosecuted by the federal government for BASE jumping. Harry Parker, the man with the perspective, has been an active jumper and photographer for more than three decades, participating in and capturing some of our community’s historic moments. Harry helped put a face and voice to the BASE jumping lifestyle. Their team created a culture around the pursuit of BASE jumping, opening the first public events, competitions, and demonstrations. Their access efforts helped open jumps on BLM land, the Perrine Bridge, and recrafted Bridge Day in West Virginia, as well as forged paths to international BASE events, which have continued to grow over several decades.

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In this episode, Laurent welcomes Marshall Miller.  Marshall has inspired both jumpers and the public with his epic videos from his early days to his recent projects, including his appearance in Line of Sight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcWMZq8-3wI), shout-out to the KAVU boys for producing what we believe is one of the most incredible wingsuit BASE jumping videos ever made.  Marshall, a pioneer in the world of professional BASE jumping, was one of GoPro's first sponsored athletes and has played a pivotal role in shaping the community. He candidly shares his experiences, including his brush with the law in Zion National Park and the absurdity of the National Park Services' enforcement. We delve into the crucial role of patience in high-risk sports, the potential pitfalls of group mentality, and the valuable lessons learned from walking down. Marshall's Zion episode with Outside Please support this independent project by visiting: support Exit Point

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