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The Church Lobby

The Church Lobby

By: Karl Vaters
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Karl Vaters interviews church leaders about the important issues of faith and ministry. It's called The Church Lobby because: The church lobby is where the church meets and does ministry. The church lobby moves conversations from the stage to the floor. The church lobby is a good place to take the temperature of a church’s health. Karl Vaters is the author of several books, including Small Church Essentials and The Grasshopper Myth. Formerly known as Can This Work In a Small Church?, this podcast primarily looks at church leadership from a small church perspective.All rights reserved Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Spirituality
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  • Ep 127: Effective Small-Church Prayer Strategies, with Chris Paavola
    May 7 2026

    Prayer is a foundation of a healthy Christian life and church. Karl Vaters talks with Chris Paavola about four strategic ways his church prays that can help any church lay a more solid foundation for health.

    The foundation of this conversation is a talk Chris gives to pastors, titled 4 Ways Small Churches Can Grow in Prayer.

    1. Sunday Intercessory Prayer
    2. Prayer Services
    3. Prayerwalking
    4. A new way to take prayer requests

    This last point comes straight from the Bible using the for/that method. It can make your church prayer request times feel less like gossip and more like the time of connection and intercession they’re meant to be.

    Chris Paavola is a pastor in Battle Creek Michigan who has written and spoken extensively about prayer, including Pray What You See: A Five-Week Prayerwalk Challenge.

    Bonus Content

    One Statement, One Question: The Power of a Simple Witness in a Complicated World, with Chris Paavola

    Karl Vaters talks with Chris Paavola about how the resurrection of Jesus changed (and still changes) everything, especially to cut through the clutter by bringing unbelievers into the real reason we believe what we believe.

    One Statement: “That’s not why I believe.”

    One Question: “What do you think happened on Easter morning?”

    Links:

    PrayForYourChurch.com

    @chris_paavola on Instagram

    @chris_paavola on X (Twitter)

    Using AI To Find Great Sermon Illustrations, with Darrell Stetler (Ep 111)

    Books:

    Pray What You See: A Five-Week Prayerwalk Challenge

    25 Prayers to Christmas: Praying through the Christmas story

    52 Prayers for Your Church: Because there's so much to pray

    The Seven Symbols of Ash: An Interactive Ash Wednesday Experience

    Less for More: Seven fasts in seven weeks for more of Jesus

    40 Prayers to Launch: 40 prayers to help people pray for your church plant’s launch

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    48 mins
  • Ep 126: Creating Margin in Ministry Through a Side Hustle and Travel Hacking, with Tim Walker
    Apr 16 2026

    Karl Vaters talks with Tim Walker about three important subjects: First, they talk about the new world of the “side hustle” culture, and why it can be an answer for pastors and churches to do more ministry with less stress.

    Second, the importance of creating margin in our life, our finances, our time, our energy, and our families.

    Third, Tim introduces us to the importance of time away from the church, the value of travel, and how to do this well without adding an additional financial burden, through the lessons he's learned about travel hacking.

    Tim is the pastor of Restored Church in Wilkes-Barre, PA, and runs the Travel Multiplier website.

    Links:

    • Travel Multiplier
    • Seats.aero
    • Point.me
    • The Church Lobby, Ep 86 with Tim Walker

    There is no Bonus Content for this episode.

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    54 mins
  • Ep 125: How People of Faith Can Help Solve the Mental Health Crisis, with Shaunti Feldhahn & James N. Sells
    Apr 2 2026

    Karl Vaters talks with Dr. Shaunti Feldhahn and Dr. James N. Sells about the state of mental and emotional care in our culture, and how churches are uniquely situated to alleviate these needs in healthy, life-giving ways.

    The conversation focuses on the CARE strategy (Coordinated Attention, Restoration, and Encouragement), and how churches of any size can be better equipped to help, starting with renewing friendships, training a CARE coordinator, and more, based on the content of their book, When Hurting People Come to Church: How People of Faith Can Help Solve the Mental Health Crisis, which was named one of Karl’s top books of the year for 2025.

    Links:

    • When Hurting People Come to Church: How People of Faith Can Help Solve the Mental Health Crisis
    • CARE Pyramids Illustrations
    • My Top Nonfiction Books Of 2025
    • When Hurting People Come to Church (Free first chapter)
    • The Church Cares Initiative
    • The Church Cares Kit
    • Culture Making: Recovering Our Creative Calling (by Andy Crouch)

    Bonus Content

    Three Key People Every Church Needs to Help Hurting People, with Shaunti Feldhahn & James N. Sells

    Your church doesn’t need a licensed counselor to help people with emotional needs. Karl Vaters talks with Dr. Shaunti Feldhahn & Dr. James N. Sells about the three key people every church should have in place to help the hurting people who come to every church.

    This conversation is based on the content of their book, When Hurting People Come to Church: How People of Faith Can Help Solve the Mental Health Crisis, which was named one of Karl’s top books of the year for 2025.

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    1 hr and 5 mins
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