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Main Street Business

Main Street Business

By: Mark J Kohler and Mat Sorensen
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The Main Street Business Podcast, hosted by attorneys Mat Sorensen and Mark J. Kohler, is the go-to resource for entrepreneurs, investors, and business owners who want to build, protect, and manage their wealth. Each episode explores real-world scenarios and offers practical advice on business structuring, tax planning, side hustles, real estate, self-directed retirement accounts, and more.

With decades of combined legal and tax experience Mark and Mat make complex financial topics understandable through charismatic discussions and practical education. Their goal is to empower listeners to make smarter legal and financial decisions by turning advanced concepts into clear, actionable strategies for LLCs, corporations, estate planning, tax reduction, raising capital, asset protection, and retirement planning.


Mark J. Kohler is a CPA, attorney, best-selling author of six books, and a nationally recognized authority on small business tax and legal strategies. Mark serves as a Senior Partner at KKOS Lawyers and Board Member at Directed IRA Trust Company, which manages over $3 billion in assets. As the founder of the Main Street Certified Tax Advisor Program, Mark has trained thousands of CPAs and Enrolled Agents nationwide, helping millions of small business owners better navigate tax and legal strategies. Mark also co-hosts The Main Street Business Podcast along with Mat Sorensen.


Mat Sorensen is an attorney, best-selling author of The Self-Directed IRA Handbook, and CEO of Directed IRA & Directed Trust Company, a leading self-directed IRA custodian with nearly $3 billion under administration. He is a national expert on self-directed retirement strategies and a Senior Partner at KKOS Lawyers. Mat also co-hosts The Main Street Business Podcast along with Mark J. Kohler.

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Episodes
  • #618 What to do if you can’t pay your taxes
    Apr 21 2026

    Can't pay your taxes? Get a Comprehensive Tax and Business Consultation so this never happens again.

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    Want to learn more about the topic? Here is a recent article Mark did on the topic - https://markjkohler.com/blog/what-to-do-if-i-cant-pay-my-taxes-by-deadline

    • Grab my eBook 30 Unique Strategies Every Business Owner Should Know!
    • You don't want to miss this! Secure your tickets for the #1 Event For Small Business Owners On Main Street America: Main Street 360
    • Looking to connect with a rock star law firm? KKOS is only a click away!
    • Are you ready to get certified in EVERY strategy I teach? Start your journey with a FREE 15-minute discovery call to explore the Main Street Tax Pro Certification.
    • Check out our YOUTUBE Channel Here: https://www.youtube.com/markjkohler
    • Craving more content? Check out my Instagram!
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    34 mins
  • #616 The Trust is the Missing Link to your Trifecta
    Apr 15 2026

    Don't delay get your plan in place - https://kkoslawyers.com/services/comprehensive-estate-plan/

    • Grab my eBook 30 Unique Strategies Every Business Owner Should Know!
    • You don't want to miss this! Secure your tickets for the #1 Event For Small Business Owners On Main Street America: Main Street 360
    • Looking to connect with a rock star law firm? KKOS is only a click away!
    • Are you ready to get certified in EVERY strategy I teach? Start your journey with a FREE 15-minute discovery call to explore the Main Street Tax Pro Certification.
    • Check out our YOUTUBE Channel Here: https://www.youtube.com/markjkohler
    • Craving more content? Check out my Instagram!
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    30 mins
  • #616 The Big Short & Rod Khleif's Story: How to Rebound
    Apr 7 2026

    What would you do if you lost $50 million and thousands of properties overnight? In this powerful episode of the Main Street Business Podcast, real estate investor Rod Khleif shares his raw story of the 2008 crash, how he lost over 2,000 properties, and the mindset that helped him rebuild an even bigger portfolio through multifamily investing. This conversation breaks down hard-earned lessons from failure, the truth about single-family vs. multifamily investing, and why mindset is the real key to long-term success.


    We also dive into today’s real estate market — rising interest rates, distressed multifamily deals, and why massive opportunity is emerging right now. If you’re an investor, entrepreneur, or just someone trying to bounce back from setbacks, this episode will challenge how you think about risk, failure, and growth.


    Be sure to like, subscribe, and drop a comment with your biggest takeaway — and check out our other episodes on real estate, wealth building, and financial strategy!


    CHAPTERS:

    0:00 Teaser

    0:35 Rod’s Real Estate Journey and the 2008 Crash

    5:11 Losing Everything and Mindset Shift

    8:11 How to Rebuild After Failure

    14:23 Focus, Fear, and Taking Action

    17:35 Why Single-Family Houses Failed vs Multifamily

    20:28 Scaling Bigger Deals Faster

    22:01 Playing to Strengths in Business

    24:32 Today’s Multifamily Market Crisis

    25:18 Opportunity in Distressed Assets

    30:54 “Renter Nation” and Housing Trends

    32:08 New Opportunities Like Senior Housing

    33:28 How Value Creation Drives Wealth

    34:45 Power of Environment and Network


    Resources:

    Interview a Main Street Tax Pro that Speaks like Mark

    Meet with a Real Lawyer on Zoom

    Self-Direct Your IRA or 401k - Buy a Business or Real Estate with Your Retirement Account (Directed IRA)

    Keep Your

    • Grab my eBook 30 Unique Strategies Every Business Owner Should Know!
    • You don't want to miss this! Secure your tickets for the #1 Event For Small Business Owners On Main Street America: Main Street 360
    • Looking to connect with a rock star law firm? KKOS is only a click away!
    • Are you ready to get certified in EVERY strategy I teach? Start your journey with a FREE 15-minute discovery call to explore the Main Street Tax Pro Certification.
    • Check out our YOUTUBE Channel Here: https://www.youtube.com/markjkohler
    • Craving more content? Check out my Instagram!
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    36 mins
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Mark and Mat are fantastic! The information they share is so important and they deliver it perfectly!

Phenomenal podcast

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