Josh's favorite Christian apologist, Dr. Randal Rauser, joins the show. Randal describes himself as "progressively Evangelical and generously Orthodox." Josh asks him about open-mindedness, his observations about the pro-life movement, when it's appropriate to call leaders out publicly, and the difference between an "agitation apologetics model" and an "agreement apologetics model."

While Josh doesn't agree with everything Rauser believes, that's not the point, and this isn't a debate episode. Josh found this to be a good opportunity to listen to the views of a very careful thinker in spite of the fact that they don't agree on everything within the abortion debate.

Related Links:

Randal Rauser's website:
https://RandalRauser.com

Randal's YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@Randal_Rauser

Randal interviews Josh about the state of the abortion debate:
https://youtu.be/zRQuuTh8YxI

Randal debates Trent Horn on abortion:
https://youtu.be/TCK_Pu4lf8A

Randal's book, "Jesus Loves Canaanites"
https://randalrauser.com/book/jesus-loves-canaanites

ERI Blog: "Abortion Images: A Case for Disagreement without Division"
http://bit.ly/2uJWRcI

Equal Rights Institute Website: 
https://EqualRightsInstitute.com

Equal Rights Institute Blog: 
https://Blog.EqualRightsInstitute.com

Equipped for Life Course: 
https://EquippedCourse.com

Sidewalk Counseling Masterclass:
http://SidewalkCounselingMasterclass.com

Chapters:

• 00:00: Introduction and thoughts on intellectual honesty
• 07:33: On trying to convince people to be open-minded
• 11:20: Defining what it means to be a “Progressive Evangelical”
• 15:05: What would he say to more conservative Christians who are concerned about Progressive Evangelicals? 
• 17:30: How would Randall describe his views on abortion?
• 23:20: What are his observations about the pro-life movement from outside of it?
• 27:26: What advice would he give to pro-life leaders?
• 29:45: A discussion on when it’s appropriate to call other leaders out in public for poor behavior
• 40:35: What practical things can people do if they want to transition from agitative apologetics to more of an agreement apologetics model?
• 42:52: Final thoughts on deception and transparency

Host: Josh Brahm
Guest: Dr. Randal Rauser
Audio/Video Editors: Josh Brahm
Publisher: Ellen Campbell

Josh Brahm and Monica Snyder have an open conversation about biology, philosophy, and how they interact with persuasion in the abortion debate. Monica has a STEM background so she and Josh compare notes on how STEM professionals and philosophers feel about each other, and why many of them are arrogant. 

They also discuss:
- How arrogance, confidence, and impostor syndrome often interact with each other; 
- The pros and cons of using big words; 
- Whether biology vs. philosophy are more likely to change minds on abortion;
- “Should we prioritize our arguments more based on whether they are influential, emotionally compelling, logically sound, or other factors?” 
- Steps anyone can take to become more rational.

Related Links:

Secular Pro-Life:
https://SecularProLife.org

SPL posts about changing from PC to PL:
https://secularprolife.com/becomingprolife

SPL's “No. embryos aren't parasites” video:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=5461153773924066

ERI's article "Abortion Images: A Case for Disagreement without Division"
http://bit.ly/2uJWRcI

Equal Rights Institute Website: 
https://EqualRightsInstitute.com

Equal Rights Institute Blog: 
https://Blog.EqualRightsInstitute.com

Equipped for Life Course: 
https://EquippedCourse.com

Sidewalk Counseling Masterclass:
http://SidewalkCounselingMasterclass.com

Host: Josh Brahm
Guest: Monica Snyder
Audio/Video Editor: Josh Brahm 
Publisher: Ellen Campbell

Monica Snyder shares a very emotional story about going undercover in a late-term abortion facility in Washington DC while being 28-weeks pregnant. She talks about what was harder than she expected and the perspective she gained about the employees at the clinic. She also helps Josh understand some things he had never heard about some post-abortive women, and responds to the most frequently asked questions and challenges from both sides of the abortion debate regarding this video. 

Editor’s note: As you may remember from a previous editor’s note, we had technical problems on this recording day that went undiagnosed until later because I didn’t think we needed to wear the headphones this time. I did the best I could to fix it, but it’s way below my standards. Thank you for your patience. 

Related Links: 

Watch the video Live Action released from this day:
https://youtu.be/_6bqFOnUsfg

Learn more about Justice for the Five here: 
https://paaunow.org/justiceforthefive 

Watch Josh's emotional interview with Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising's Terrisa Bukovinac and Lauren Handy:
https://www.youtube.com/live/_8uDzYhrvXY?feature=share

Read Monica Snyder's piece for the Washington Times about this story:
https://bit.ly/3HxXwEv

Read a similar piece Monica wrote for the Secular Pro-Life blog:
https://bit.ly/3NASyuA

Read this Secular Pro-Life Interview: How Gabriela became a sidewalk counselor outside the clinic where she had her abortion:
https://bit.ly/3VCA1A7

Sidewalk Counseling Masterclass:
http://SidewalkCounselingMasterclass.com

Equal Rights Institute Website: 
https://EqualRightsInstitute.com

Equal Rights Institute Blog: 
https://Blog.EqualRightsInstitute.com

Equipped for Life Course: 
https://EquippedCourse.com

Host: Josh Brahm
Guest: Monica Snyder
Audio/Video Editor: Josh Brahm 
Publisher: Ellen Campbell