Wandering through the wealth of great content that people share about design systems, we stumbled across this piece by Masha on Smashing Magazine...so we thought we'd invite her onto the show to talk about being a hybrid designer-developer type person, working in design systems as a team of one and her next challenge. Food came into it, too...so now we know her favorite pizza!

Check out her YouTube channel for Figma and CSS tips: https://www.youtube.com/@mash312 

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In this episode, we brought in Luis, who, aside from being Head of Product Design at YLD, also runs Design Systems London....which happens to be where your hosts Dan & Dan met. We go on a fair bit of a journey from Luis' windy career path to how design systems work in a consultancy model, to the events...and what they'd do if the world were without the Internet

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How do you create a podcast? Here, Dan Cork and Dan Donald have a chat about design systems, the universe, and everything, while working out what this podcast should be. They talk about their experiences not just with design systems but how they got here and what comes next

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