• After the Bar - Stories from the Legal Industry

  • By: Shulin Lee
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After the Bar - Stories from the Legal Industry

By: Shulin Lee
  • Summary

  • Lawyers often get paid a lot of money to advise and represent clients. We often hear about their successes. However, we don’t usually have access to how they got there - their inspiring backstories, the challenges they have navigated and the period of growth they had to go through. Join former lawyer-turned-legal recruiter Shulin Lee, as she speaks to practising lawyers, in-house counsels, former lawyers turned entrepreneurs, and many more from Singapore and around the world. You will hear about how they made major life-changing decisions, learn how they overcame setbacks and established their careers to get to where they are today. These stories will definitely leave you feeling inspired! For more information on Shulin, please head to https://www.linkedin.com/in/shulinlee/
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Episodes
  • Raymond Fong ON: Discovering Purpose – A Former Lawyer’s Journey to Becoming a Pastor
    Apr 15 2024

    Would you leave a well-paying legal career to be a pastor? That's what Raymond Fong did.

    An ex-Deputy Public Prosecutor with a career in the Legal Service, he took a different path to be a pastor. He is now a Pastor-in-Charge at Wesley Methodist Church, a role that he holds with a deep sense of purpose.

    In this episode, you will hear about his story: a prosecutor turned pastor. We'll explore the challenges he faced during this career shift, the lessons he learned, and the journey that led him to become a pastor.

    We also discuss:

    • Implications of his transition: significant income loss, working 24/7
    • His leadership and life lessons
    • His experience as a prosecutor

    Join us, whether you are considering shifting careers, embarking on your professional journey, or already experienced in your field, as we uncover the unique story of Pastor Raymond's dual careers and the lessons he has to offer.

    For more about Pastor Ray and his work, check out his newly launched podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0wTfH91dRk5bT6VPJ0GuS9?si=c7d7374f8c4e45ae

    Connect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shulinlee/

    More on the podcast - https://www.AfterTheBar.com.sg

    What to listen for:


    00:00 Start of Episode
    00:39 Introduction
    01:29 Pastor Raymond’s 2024 So Far
    02:45 Transitioning From Law to Ministry
    03:48 Considerations Through the Different Seasons of Life
    05:26 Shifting Priorities with a Lower Salary
    07:52 Working 24/7 as a Pastor
    09:01 Wrestling with Self-Doubt
    10:20 Advice for Younger Self
    11:20 Setbacks Which Set You Up for Success
    14:47 Moving from a Smaller Church to a Bigger Church
    19:06 Tips on Being a Good Listener
    21:05 Is Leadership an Inborn or Cultivated Skill?
    23:50 The Pressure of Having People Look Up to You
    25:06 How to Comprehend Pain and Struggling on Earth
    27:42 Pastor Raymond’s Experience as a Deputy Public Prosecutor (DPP)
    38:56 What Would Pastor Raymond Be If Not a Lawyer or a Pastor?
    39:33 What Are You Most Proud Of?
    41:30 Advice To Those Thinking of Making a Major Career Pivot
    43:10 Rapid Fire Round
    45:29 Outro
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    46 mins
  • Amarjit & Seow Hui ON: Retrenchment in Singapore - Know Your Rights
    Apr 1 2024

    What if you get retrenched? What if you need to terminate someone? Do you know what your rights are? Or what to do?

    In this episode, you’re going to learn what your rights are if you get retrenched in Singapore.

    We talk about retrenchment, termination and employment law with two senior lawyers - Amarjit Kaur, Head of Singapore Employment Practice at Withers KhattarWong and Seow Hui Goh, Head of Singapore Employment Practice at Bird & Bird.

    Hear their views on the recent Lazada layoffs. And how retrenchment can go terribly wrong and also surprisingly well, when handled properly.

    We also talk about:

    • Repercussions of Remote Work
    • How to Terminate Employees, and Still Preserve Goodwill.
    • Effectiveness of Performance Indicator Plans (PIPs) in the Workplace.

    Join us, whether you're a leader, experienced professional or just starting out in the workforce, as this episode offers invaluable insights beneficial for both employers and employees.

    If you know someone who’s dealing with employment uncertainty, send them this episode and provide them with the information they will need.

    Seow Hui Goh LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/seow-hui-%E6%99%93%E6%85%A7-goh-%E5%90%B4-a997b66a

    Videos with Seow Hui Goh: https://youtu.be/HirBFsXP9oo?si=fQR0vcfp_NMLNuaZ

    Amarjit Kaur LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amarjit-kaur-4b1ba620/

    Videos with Amarjit Kaur: https://youtu.be/bdQ3WNBuloM?si=QbzEjtAeq_PN2vg-

    Connect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shulinlee/

    More on the podcast - https://www.AfterTheBar.com.sg

    What to listen for: 00:00 Start of Episode 00:45 Introduction 01:47 Dealing with Rumours of Retrenchment 04:01 What to do When Colleagues are Offered a Better Retrenchment Package 06:13 Taking a Pay-cut to Stay in the Organisation 07:29 Lazada Retrenchment Exercise 10:32 How can Employers Cushion the Blow of Retrenchment? 14:04 Can Retrenchments Go Well? 15:59 Retrenchment as a Disguise to Let Go of Poor Performers 19:41 Do PIPs Actually Work? 24:36 When to Let Go of a Poor Performer 28:45 Preserving the Relationship When Employees Leave the Organisation 31:10 Should You Reveal at Your Next Interview if You Were Made Redundant? 34:30 Can Organisations Do Anything When an Employee Posts a Bad Review on Glassdoor? 37:01 Disgruntled Employees Sharing Their Opinions Online 39:52 Remote Working in a Public Place 44:23 What’s the Best Ratio of Working In Office To Working From Home 47:56 Upcoming Workplace Fairness Legislation 54:06 Rapid Fire Round 57:08 Outro

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    59 mins
  • Sophie Mathur ON: Breaking the Bias and Becoming a Leader
    Mar 18 2024

    After the Bar is back with Season 3! And this time, we're delving into the theme of navigating transitions. Join Shulin as she speaks with lawyers from various walks of life – past, present, and future – to explore their journeys in law, with a special focus on the pivotal moments in their careers and personal lives.

    In our season opener, Shulin is joined by Sophie Mathur, a Mergers and Acquisitions lawyer and the Asia Head of Corporate with Linklaters.

    Sophie takes us on a journey through her evolution in the legal industry – from starting her legal career in London, to achieving partnership, leadership, and motherhood. Along the way, she’s shattered conventions and forged her own path.

    You will hear her share invaluable insights into personal branding, business development (without wining and dining!), and she even gives a masterclass on how to give feedback.

    Sophie opens up about the unique challenges she faced as an Asian woman of colour in the corporate realm. Through her candid reflections, she sheds light on the psychological barriers that often hinder us from realizing our full potential.

    Join us for the kickoff of Season 3, as Sophie shares her remarkable insights, lessons learnt, and the incredible journey she's charted.

    Follow Sophie Mathur:

    LinkedIn - https://sg.linkedin.com/in/sophie-mathur-090356

    Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/c4B56soGrno

    Videos with Sophie Mathur:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0fbaxYFuu4
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfAwRhiYgCE

    Connect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shulinlee/

    More on the podcast - https://www.AfterTheBar.com.sg

    What to listen for:

    • 00:00 Start of Episode
    • 00:58 Introduction
    • 02:10 What is a Merger and Acquisition (M&A) Lawyer?
    • 02:42 Being an Asian Woman of Colour in the Legal Industry
    • 07:19 Having Self-Confidence
    • 11:19 Being Smiley but Firm
    • 14:23 Being Afraid to Ask for a Favour
    • 19:55 The Problem with Chasing Perfection
    • 21:33 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
    • 24:26 The Feeling of Not Being Good Enough
    • 25:56 Dealing with Negativity
    • 31:24 Good Intentions but Bad Results
    • 35:13 The Feeling of Winning Over the Support of the Team
    • 38:24 Getting Feedback from Your Kids
    • 40:51 Ingraining Giving Feedback in a Team’s Culture
    • 44:54 Sophie’s Drivers for Career Pivots
    • 48:40 Matching the Right Job to the Right Person
    • 50:40 Knowing When to Pivot
    • 51:44 How Becoming a Mom Affects Your Career Perspective
    • 55:45 Sophie’s Surprise Baby
    • 57:26 Networking Without Wining and Dining
    • 1:00:20 Alternative Methods of Business Development
    • 1:01:41 Advice for your Younger Self
    • 1:02:34 Rapid Fire Round
    • 1:04:39 Outro
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    1 hr and 5 mins

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