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The Sheldrake Vernon Dialogues

The Sheldrake Vernon Dialogues

By: Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon
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Biologist Dr. Rupert Sheldrake and psychotherapist Mark Vernon explore the frontiers where rigorous science meets life's deepest mysteries. Through original research and thoughtful dialogue, they investigate consciousness, memory, spiritual practices, and the nature of reality itself—questioning the materialist assumptions that have dominated science for centuries. Their conversations bridge empirical investigation with ancient wisdom, offering fresh perspectives on everything from prayer and dreams to the extended mind and humanity's role in nature.

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Episodes
  • Art & the Sacred Today
    Jul 21 2026

    Does art need to have a sacred dimension to be art at all? What are the sources of inspiration? In this dialogue, which is the 102nd in the series, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon, explore how meaning and beauty, truth and connection might be manifested in the arts. What is the role of reverence and empathy, place and intelligence? Conversely, what is lost when art loses a reference beyond the human and mechanical world? If art energizes the human spirit, encourages awareness, and revitalises symbols, how might it speak to us today of what it is be human and to live in a more than human world?

    The conversation took place in The Garrison Chapel, Chelsea, and was organised by The King’s Foundation.

    Chapters

    0:00 V: Welcome, cave art and the meaning of sympathy

    6:09 R: Museums as temples, art stripped of the sacred

    13:38 V: A deconsecrated chapel, the Vatican's galleries and the spectator

    21:19 R: Cultural breaks and continuity, from Egypt to India

    24:56 V: One divine source, many forms; Dante and iconoclasm

    29:24 R: Keith Critchlow, geometry and the forms of nature

    33:23 V: Beauty's call, prayer at Lascaux, Piero della Francesca and Blake

    38:37 R: Making by hand, from stone tools to museums of bones

    42:22 V: Closing remarks

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    43 mins
  • Making Sense of the Resurrection of the Body
    May 7 2026

    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yU1CQIE4T10
    Many people report apparitions of their loved ones after death, and even of loved dogs and cats. But how do these after-death communications align with the Christian teaching of the resurrection of the body? In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon explore the evidence for the post-mortem appearances of humans and non-humans, and ask how it fits with the accounts of Jesus’s resurrection in the Bible. The appearance of Jesus to the disciples and others is often taken as evidence of a physical revival of Jesus after his crucifixion but a subtler, arguably more compelling interpretation is that after-death communications are relatively common - which is the experience the disciples had. Then, the resurrection of Jesus shows something about the nature of the spiritual body, as Saint Paul calls the body that awaits us. But what to make of the empty tomb that had contained the body of Jesus and the variety of activities Jesus reportedly engaged in after his resurrection, and what this might mean for existence after death and the presence of other worlds that are also here and now?

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    35 mins
  • Patron Saints
    Jan 22 2026

    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/274OwKLCsFM

    Support the show on Substack: https://rupertsheldrake.substack.com

    Saints and genii locorum, or spirits of place, are the names in various wisdom traditions given to guardian beings who protect, assist and inspire. So what does it mean to call on these sacred beings? In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss the role of patron saints who are associated with churches and shrines, days and names. What powers might figures from Saint Mary to Saint Nicolas bring to us? How do we call upon them and how is their presence understood? Rupert and Mark explore the ways in which saints connect heaven and earth in individual lives, particular places and at various times of the year.

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    38 mins
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