In this episode of the Crisis Lab Podcast, host Kyle King interviews Aaron Marks, founder and principal of One Thirty Nine Consulting and an expert in consequence management, civil-military coordination, and crisis planning in emergency management.

Kyle and Aaron discuss the concept of 'consequences' in crisis scenarios, exploring their inherent nature, impacts, and role in decision-making. They also delve into factors that determine consequence severity and the importance of prioritization. Finally, they touch on various mitigation strategies for crisis management, aiming to provide practical strategies for managing consequences.

Aaron Marks is a Civil Expert for NATO's Civil Emergency Planning Committee and has also developed programs for government and private sector clients focused on consequence management and crisis planning following incidents involving weapons of mass destruction or toxic industrial materials. Previously a Paramedic, Aaron specialized in hazardous environment care and tactical medicine, responding to multiple large-scale incidents and disasters. He holds a B.A. in Psychology and a master’s in Public Administration with a focus in Emergency Management.

Tune in as we delve deep into managing consequences, providing practical strategies and insights for navigating crisis scenarios.

Show Highlights

[02:55] Aaron Marks reflects on care vs. consequences in emergency response

[07:12] Unintended consequences of humanitarian aid and crisis management complexities

[12:36] How consequence management in crisis response anticipates and mitigates future risks

[23:10] Balancing hard and soft sciences in evolving consequence management

[29:33] Why sharing data matters in managing consequences

[34:04] The unexpected lesson Aaron discovered in decision outcomes and effective management

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In this episode of Crisis Lab Podcast, host Kyle King interviews Mr. Robert Fagan, a retired Colonel from the U.S. Army and an expert in public health, emergency preparedness, and disaster response.

They dissect the intricate differences between leadership and crisis leadership emphasizing the essential knowledge, skills, and attributes needed for effective crisis leadership. They also explore the importance of crisis leadership in the face of disruptions to normal operations, and Mr. Fagan's experiences with crisis leadership in various contexts, from the military field to humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations.

Mr. Robert Fagan is currently a Senior Emergency Manager and Exercise Planner at Global Eagle Consulting. In addition to his 30 years in combat, he worked on several contingency deployments in various positions during humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations. Mr. Fagan holds multiple master's degrees, certifications as a Certified Emergency Manager, and has graduated from high-level crisis management programs at Harvard, Yale, and NATO.

Tune in as we explore leadership in times of crisis.

Show Highlights

[02:08] The evolution of leadership to meta-leadership
[06:12] How crisis leadership differs from general leadership principles
[10:54] The significance of adaptability and inclusivity in leadership, especially in multicultural and disaster response scenarios
[16:56] Why humility and continuous learning drive effective leadership and response strategies
[21:05] The necessity of individual and community in the face of growing global threats
[28:30] Why Rob stresses proactive planning for mitigation, prevention, preparedness, and protection in effective crisis leadership.

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