Today's wonderful guest, Sir John Kirwan, or JK as we know him, was one of the best rugby legends on the planet. He was known as being one of the toughest men but, JK spent a lot of his rugby career paralysed by anxiety. During his time as an All Black, the conversation around mental health was very different to what it is today and JK was, at least in part, a reason that our understanding of mental health has shifted.

In this chat we speak about what the early days of being an All Black were like; not much pay and the need for a second job! He played 63 test matches for the All Blacks from 1984 to 1994 and was part of the winning 1987 Rugby World Cup team. He also played for the Warriors and had success as a rugby coach, including on the international stage with Italy and Japan.

We speak about JK's family and why he has such a deep connection to Italy.

In 2012, JK was knighted for his services to mental health – an honour & a life long responsibility as he says. At least he got a scone! He is the co-founder of Groov who are on a mission to improve the daily well being and reduce the suffering of people living with poor mental health.

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Sir John Kirwan chose to donate the money to Gotcha4life

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In today's episode, we dive into the extraordinary life and career of Ellie Cole, Australia's most successful female Paralympian.

From her early battle with cancer to her remarkable achievements in the pool, Ellie shares her journey of resilience, determination, and many, many 3am wake ups.

We speak about the impact of her cancer diagnosis on her family, given that she was diagnosed at age 2. Ellie shares her feelings around 'survivor's guilt' and how many cancer survivors feel their illness impacted their family.

Ellie shares why she developed a deep passion for swimming, and the challenges she faced as she navigated her path to success. From confronting her own retirement to finding love, starting a family, and embracing her role as a commentator for the Paris Olympics, Ellie's story is one that will have you feeling motivated. This episode is filled with heart, laughter, and insight as we celebrate the incredible Ellie Cole!

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As for all of these podcasts, Shaw and Partners have generously donated $10k to the charity of choice of each of our guests.

Ellie chose to donate $5000 to Camp Quality and $5000 to Challenge - Supporting kids with cancer

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Today's episode is such an enjoyable chat with Gus Gould!
In the rugby league world, Gus is known as being a player, a general manager, a commentator and the most successful NSW State of Origin coach in history.

He's also known for telling it like it is and voicing his honest opinions, despite them not always being popular. But, this chat was full of deep and meaningful conversations about his family and what led him to the various positions that he has held within the rugby league world. He hasn't planned a single thing in his life!
We have some belly laughs about how he got his nickname 'Gus' and when he met Nick Politis & subsequently joined the Roosters.
This chat had me see a completely different side of Gus that I hadn't expected.
He speaks about what he looks for in an up and coming player and how he never intended to be a young leader.

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As for all of these podcasts, Shaw and Partners have generously donated $10k to the charity of choice of each of our guests.

Gus chose to donate the money to The Mark Hughes Foundation

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