For the latest interview special of Electric Friends, I speak to Gary Numan's brother John Webb, aka Donovan Silver.

Donovan opens up about his close bond with older brother Gary, what it was like growing up with him and the first time he joined Tubeway Army on stage as a 12-year-old.

He also speaks about joining the band full-time as a teenager and their various tours, as well as working alongside Queen legend Roger Taylor on drums.

Donovan also gives a fascinating account of his impressive aviation career, as well as his return to music, including his most recent album Alpha.

Clips used:

• Gary Numan - (R)Evolution (audiobook)
• Tubeway Army live at the Roxy - Boys (1977)
• Gary Numan - Remind Me to Smile (live, 1983)
• Gary Numan - Crash
• John Webb - The Experiment of Love
• Donovan Silver - Alpha
• Tubeway Army - Me! I Disconnect from You

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"Stroll to the cafe, my God, how time flies..."

For this episode, we travel way back to one of Gary Numan's first songs. 'My Shadow in Vain' was written before Tubeway Army even existed, and it went on to become one of his most performed songs ever.

This episode delves into the different versions of the song, from its punk origins to the 2002 hard rock version. We also hear from Gary as he explains how Tubeway Army came to be, and the meaning behind the song.

Clips used:

• Tubeway Army - My Shadow in Vain
• Tubeway Army - My Shadow in Vain (The Plan version)
• Gary Numan - (R)Evolution (audiobook)
• Tubeway Army - My Shadow in Vain (live, 1977)
• Tubeway Army - Something's in the House
• Gary Numan - My Shadow in Vain (2002 version)
• Gary Numan - My Shadow in Vain (live, 1979)
• Gary Numan - My Shadow in Vain (live, 1984)

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For this interview special of Electric Friends, I’m speaking to Andy Gray, one of the most sought-after DJs, songwriters, producers and composers of the last few decades.

Andy made a name for himself in the early 90s in the growing dance music scene, with his remixes and work with his group Amoeba Assassin, and for his work with Paul Oakenfold’s Perfecto label. He has gone on to produce or remix music by a wide range of artists such as The Human League, Tori Amos, New ORder, Tears for Fears, Moby, U2, John Foxx and many more.

He is also a prolific film and TV soundtrack composer, on projects such as Swordfish, Get Carter and Hunters, and he also composed and produced the iconic Big Brother theme in the UK.

He has also had a long association with Gary Numan, whom he counts as a good friend. He has collaborated and remixed Gary’s music many times, including appearances on the Hybrid, Jagged and Dead Son Rising albums. In particular, he remixed the brilliant version of A Prayer for the Unborn, which we hear at pretty much every Gary Numan gig today.

I caught up with Andy to talk about his career, how Gary’s music inspired him as a youth, and what his experiences of working with Gary have been, and what we can look forward to in the future.

Clips used:

• Tubeway Army - Are Friends Electric?
• Amoeba Assassin - Rollercoaster
• The Human League - Tell Me When
• Elementfour - Big Brother Theme
• Gary Numan - Listen to My Voice (Andy Gray remix)
• Gary Numan - A Prayer for the Unborn (Andy Gray remix)
• Gary Numan - Are Friends Electric (Andy Gray remix)
• Gary Numan - Ancients
• Andy Gray & Gary Numan - For You

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