How to find pleasure in being in a body, creating a dialogue between your emotional and physical body. These two human systems are critical to our well-being and experiences in life, yet we tend to evaluate and feel them separately, which can create dis-ease. Finding pleasure in the body can be key to fully embracing your incarnation in this lifetime.

Debra is joined by Liz Letchford who, by way of the evolution of her work, has embodied a mission to bridge these two worlds. As Liz says, “We came from the stars,” and she has actually learned components of Astrology by relating the signs to the systems of the body.

Liz speaks to marrying the two oppositional worlds of science, through her sports medicine and PhD in biomechanics, and the mystical world within her somatic and intuitive work, which she shares about within this episode. Sitting in the middle between opposing energies and showing how one can support the other is one of Liz’s great abilities, as evidenced by her Mercury in Pisces.

You’ll get to experience Liz’s Aries energy, her fun-loving Sagittarius vibe, and the intuitive, sensual nature of her Cancer Moon and Venus in Taurus. Tune in and refresh your perspective on the pleasure of being in a body, whether you have left that behind or have yet to feel it. It’s time to reconnect our physical and emotional planes.

Connect with Liz Letchford here: https://bit.ly/lizletchford

• How to find pleasure in being in a body by creating a dialogue between the emotional and physical

• How an event in infancy charted the course for Liz’s focus in this life

• An exploration of how unprocessed emotions create physical symptoms

• The interpretation of similar Astrological components Liz and Albert Einstein share

• The need for creating bridges between seemingly opposite worlds, like the physical and emotional and the logical and mystical

[01:04] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Liz Letchford, who shares about her relationship with Astrology

[02:34] Liz introduces herself

[03:55] Where we need to give Pisces credit as Debra interprets Liz’s Mercury in Pisces

[05:57] The connection between Liz and Albert Einstein’s Astrological charts

[06:32] Liz shares about her shift into embodying her science and work

[07:18] “Unprocessed emotions create physical symptoms.”

[08:20] Sharing Liz’s Astrological chart and breaking down some key components

[09:36] The last time Liz cried and why it’s part of her embodiment practice

[10:49] Debra shares her gratitude for people like Liz

[11:42] How Liz’s lifestyle had to change to match her intuitive and emotional needs

[13:32] Why people come to see Liz in her professional work

[14:21] What Liz wishes people would do

[14:54] Liz shares something shocking she did as a child, the moment she got disconnected from her body, and how it lead her to where she is now

[17:23] Bringing the unconscious imprint up, as Debra works through in Tell Me A Story

[18:03] Debra shares about what it means to have your Moon placement in a Water sign and a Water House

[19:34] Appreciating your incarnation no matter where you are at in your soul’s evolution

[20:28] Liz shares about a recurring dream about a spiral and Debra connects that symbol to the soul’s evolution

[21:17] What Liz couldn’t live without

[22:17] Liz shares something somewhat “hidden” about her work and a story of it coming into play during a session

[26:14] The slogan Debra had on the back of her business card

[26:43] Debra shares a key takeaway for the audience

[27:17] Someone alive or passed on that Liz wishes she could have a conversation with

[28:46] If Liz wasn’t talking about the body, she would be interested in…

[30:27] Debra’s feeling about Liz’s gift in this life

[30:55] Where Debra and Liz met

[31:34] Closing out the podcast

How to lead by example and help the planet- what’s more important than taking care of your home (Earth)? Debra sits down with biological resource engineer Bobby Gill to talk about the realities of the climate crisis and practical ways we can all help Mother Earth. 

Bobby speaks about the importance of “voting with your dollar” and the importance of environmental legislation. Our home, and the future of the planet, are on the line.

From an Astrological perspective, Bobby didn’t know about Astrology; tune in to hear Debra translate his chart, easily pinpointing his innate nature. Bobby shares reflections of Debra’s Astrological insights and reflects on his Saturn return and the popularity of Astrology. 

Bobby shares how he believes society is reinventing itself from a “dying way of living.” Tune in for an inspiring conversation around the climate crisis, learn about desertification, and get clues into the nature of a Capricorn and Sagittarius energy. 

• How to lead by example and help the planet with small efforts that can have a big impact

• Understanding the process of desertification and its importance in the climate conversation

• Seeing an optimistic future after the planet being in “hospice”

• Voting with your dollar and the government’s part in the climate crisis

• How Capricorn and Sagittarius energy can show up in a personality

[01:00] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Bobby Gill

[02:45] How Debra and Bobby met and Debra’s entrance into being literate around the climate crisis

[03:50] Bobby’s familiarity with Astrology and Debra deciphering his natal chart

[05:45] Bobby speaks to the relevance of his adventure-seeking nature as told by his Astrological chart

[06:25] Bobby tells us about working at the Savory Institute and its mission

[08:13] An explanation of desertification and how the Savory Institute helps to teach communities

[12:15] A controversial thought within the climate crisis debate

[14:28] Debra and Bobby share their thoughts about an incredible film, To Which We Belong, by Pamela Tanner Boll 

[17:43] The doom and gloom of the climate crisis, and the optimism around the corner

[20:11] The reality of the climate crisis from Bobby’s perspective

[24:11] One of the things Bobby is most worried about as we navigate the changes ahead

[26:10] Debra speaks to being passionate about our life’s work and taking the long view into account

[27:52] How will the government come into play with supporting environmental legislation?

[28:37] Bobby shares about “voting with your dollar” and other things individuals can do with the environment in mind

[31:25] Thoughts on the use of plastics and the conveniences we have grown accustomed to 

[33:01] Debra encourages the audience to be conscious of their choices

[35:31] Reflecting on Bobby’s lack of the Air element in his chart

[36:38] How Bobby’s Earth and Fire in his Astrological chart shows up so prominently in his demeanor

[37:33] What Bobby would be talking about if he wasn’t talking about regenerative agriculture

[38:00] One thing Bobby couldn’t live without 

[38:20] The last time that Bobby cried 

[38:52] Who, across time and history, Bobby would have a conversation with if he could

[39:20] What’s next that Bobby is so excited about

[40:05] The emergence of Astrology into the current collective mindset

[40:55] The value Astrology can provide from Bobby’s perspective

[42:00] Debra asks Bobby about his Saturn return

[43:38] Thanking Bobby for his time on the podcast and Debra’s hope to ignite interest in Astrology and the climate crisis