This in-depth discussion between Samantha Pinson Wrisley and Jennifer Hamilton provides an unexpected but perfect coda to volume one.  Wrisley’s research on misogyny focuses on the "feeling" of hating women, and on articulating how those feelings shape relationships and social worlds. In Wrisley’s work, the consequences of widespread heteropessimism are examined for their connections to misogyny, which are less banal and more pernicious. They look at how this same (or adjacent) feeling tangles with misogyny and forms part of the rise of transphobia, incels and the manosphere. 

In our final episode of Volume One, Jennifer Hamilton chats to author and scholar, Sophie Lewis, about her new book, ‘Abolish the Family!: A Manifesto for Care and Liberation' and how this provocative idea can help us move beyond the emotional and political trap that is laid for people by heteropessimism.

Our team member, Dr Christina Kenny, a sociologist at UNE talks to strong man coach, sex worker and professional dominant, Sir James, to unpack some of the ways that ‘desire’ and ‘taboo’ can undo and perhaps even challenge some of the constrictive, heteronormative expectations which can produce heteropessimism and, in turn, heteropessimists.