In this episode, Jeffery K. Patterson chats with Gerry Cichon, CEO of the Housing Authority of the City of El Paso (HACEP). Gerry tells Jeffery how HACEP is pioneering the use of AI in PHA operations, using cutting-edge technology to help HACEP run more efficiently and serve its residents more effectively. He also discusses HACEP's successful homeownership program and its work to build a public housing community for seniors run on clean energy.

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In this episode, Maria Razo, newly elected Vice President of the Council of Large Public Housing Authorities and longtime Executive Director of the Housing Authority of the County of San Bernardino (HACSB), talks with Jeffery K. Patterson about her path into the affordable housing industry and her leadership priorities. As the 30-year anniversary of the creation of the Moving to Work (MTW) program approaches, Maria highlights how MTW enables innovation and local flexibility and helps HACSB to serve its residents more effectively and efficiently. Maria also share updates on the revitalization of HACSB’s Arrowhead Grove community, talking about both the challenges and opportunities presented by this large-scale place-based investment.

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Jeffery K. Patterson sits down for a chat with his first repeat guest -- new CLPHA CEO La Shelle Dozier, who took the organization's helm in December 2025. La Shelle tells Jeffery about how she's adjusting to life in the nation's capital, her vision and goals for the organzation, how she plans to tackle the biggest opportunities and challenges facing PHAs in her new role, next steps for the 10 Year Roadmap for Public Housing Sustainability, and much more.

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