Becky Scherr and Michael Brodkorb return after Michael’s week off due to health issues before breaking down Sen. Amy Klobuchar’s first major gubernatorial campaign rollout: a Sunday St. Paul press conference and “Get Results and Make Government Accountable” anti-fraud agenda, framed as a break from the status quo and a prosecutor-led push for oversight and jail time in major cases.

They compare Klobuchar’s approach with the Minnesota House Fraud Prevention & State Agency Oversight Committee's detailed report and debate whether Republicans can translate dense findings into voter-friendly messaging, including how the issue may affect down-ballot races.

They then examine the ongoing question of whether Klobuchar is truly a moderate, including her redistricting stance, bipartisan brand, and voting patterns.

The episode also covers continued local resistance to Minnesota’s new state flag. It concludes with criticism of President Donald Trump’s claim that he doesn’t think about Americans’ financial situation, along with a discussion of gas prices heading into the election.

00:00 — Introduction & Episode Highlights: remarks, a kidney stone update from the hosts, and a preview of the episode’s main topics.

04:34 — Klobuchar’s Fraud Rollout and the Walz Question: Breaking down Klobuchar’s move to front the fraud story, how Walz is distancing himself from the issue, and the messaging dynamics at play.

16:57 — The Fraud Committee Report: A detailed look at the committee’s findings, whether Klobuchar’s rollout stole thunder from Republicans, and what the report means politically.

29:04 — Is Klobuchar Actually a Moderate? Examining the gap between Klobuchar’s moderate brand and her actual voting record, including her redistricting stance, gerrymandering positions, bipartisan wins, and progressive flashpoints.

39:06 — Persona Versus Record: A deeper interrogation of whether Klobuchar’s moderation is real or performative, and what her voting history reveals about her actual positioning.

49:10 — The State Flag Backlash Fallout: A break down of the political backlash over the state flag redesign.

01:00:40 — Trump, Affordability, and Gas Prices: Analyzing Trump’s positioning on affordability issues, gas price trends heading into the election, and what it means for voters.

01:07:48 — Closing Thoughts and Courting Harry: Michael makes a plug for Courting Harry, which opens Saturday at the History Theatre and explores the lifelong friendship and political divide between Minnesota-born U.S. Supreme Court justices Harry Blackmun and Warren Burger.

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Becky Scherr and Michael Brodkorb sit down with former Minnesota Rep. Dennis Smith, now chair of the Republican Party of Minnesota’s Elephant Club. Smith reflects on his legislative record working across the aisle, a brief run for attorney general, and what it takes to build a Republican Party capable of winning statewide again.

Smith breaks down the Elephant Club’s donor events, what he’s hearing from Republican contributors, and why he believes the GOP needs a broader tent to compete in Minnesota. He also walks through his candidate-driven Zoom forums featuring five GOP gubernatorial hopefuls, the concerns he hears most from voters: the economy, fraud, and electability. His advice to delegates: do your homework and stay engaged well beyond convention.

Then Becky and Michael react to Governor Tim Walz’s final State of the State address. They break down how Walz framed it as a legacy speech, hitting childcare, cost of living, freedoms, and fraud, and what it signals about how he wants to be remembered.

Next, they dig into FBI raids at 22 Minnesota locations tied to alleged public program fraud and the political fight over who deserves credit for the operation.

They close on a sobering note: the shooting at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, the growing threat of political violence, and what it means for the people willing to serve in public life.

00:00 — Introduction & Episode Highlights Overview of the episode, guest preview, and what’s ahead.

01:10 — Meet Dennis Smith: Introduction to former Minnesota Rep. Dennis Smith, his legislative record of working across the aisle, his run for attorney general, and his role leading the Republican Party of Minnesota’s Elephant Club.

03:30 — Building a Broader Republican Tent: Smith breaks down the Elephant Club’s mission, donor sentiment, and why Minnesota Republicans need a bigger tent to win statewide.

08:31 — Gubernatorial Zoom Forums and Voter Concerns: Smith walks through his candidate-driven forums featuring five GOP gubernatorial hopefuls, the top concerns he hears from voters: economy, fraud, and electability, and his advice for delegates heading into convention.

27:55 — Interview Reaction & Gov. Walz’s Final State of the State: Becky and Michael respond to the interview, then break down Governor Walz’s final State of the State address and what it reveals about the legacy he’s trying to build.

48:11 — FBI Fraud Raids and the Fight Over Credit: A deep dive into FBI raids at 22 Minnesota locations tied to alleged public program fraud and the political dispute over who deserves credit for the operation.

54:54 — The White House Correspondents’ Dinner Shooting: A breakdown of the security incident in Washington, the failures it exposed, and what it means for those in public life.

01:08:21 — Political Violence, Public Service, and Closing Thoughts: A sobering conversation about the growing threat of political violence in Minnesota and across the country, and what it means for the people willing to serve.

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Becky Scherr and Michael Brodkorb sit down with Lars Leafblad of Ballinger Leafblad, one of Minnesota’s top executive search leaders, to talk about a leadership crisis hiding in plain sight. Leafblad estimates roughly 60% turnover since 2020 across elected officials, nonprofit CEOs, and major employers, driven by a perfect storm of the pandemic, George Floyd’s murder, political violence, and a wave of generational retirements.

The conversation goes deeper than the numbers. Leafblad argues that the collapse of in-person networking has hollowed out civic relationships and what he calls “civic IQ.” He points to the Citizens League and its Legislative Exchange program as models for rebuilding those connections and linking people who care about Minnesota with the power and capital to make a difference.

On a lighter note: Leafblad walks through how he won bipartisan legislative approval to launch a DNR-run contest to redesign the State Parks and Trails license plate, with the Lake Superior agate as the centerpiece. In Minnesota, that counts as a big win!

Then Becky and Michael break down where things stand in the U.S. Senate race between Congresswoman Angie Craig and Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan, including the debate landscape. Finally, they take a close look at Gov. Tim Walz’s new “Small Town PAC,” his latest effort to rebuild Democratic support in rural America.

00:00 — Introduction & Episode Highlights: Overview of the episode, guest preview, and a quick birthday shoutout by Becky.

03:31 — Meet Lars Leafblad: Introduction to Lars Leafblad of Ballinger Leafblad, his work in executive search, and why Minnesota’s leadership pipeline is in trouble.

06:01 — The 60% Turnover Crisis: Leafblad breaks down the data: how a perfect storm of pandemic, George Floyd’s murder, political violence, and generational retirements hollowed out Minnesota’s leadership class.

08:10 — Rebuilding Civic Connection: The collapse of in-person networking, the erosion of civic IQ, and why organizations like the Citizens League matter more than ever.

13:59 — Economic Impacts and the Talent Drain: What happens when cities lose their movers and shakers, and the long-term economic consequences of leadership turnover.

44:47 — The Lake Superior Agate License Plate Story: How Leafblad won bipartisan support to launch a DNR-run contest to redesign Minnesota’s State Parks and Trails license plate.

57:14 — Hosts Reflect & Senate Race Debate Fight: Host reactions to the interview, followed by a breakdown of the debate battle in the Angie Craig and Peggy Flanagan U.S. Senate race and why it matters.

01:22:25 — Walz’s Small Town PAC & Closing: A close look at Gov. Tim Walz’s new rural Democratic strategy, pushback from critics, and closing remarks.

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