Today we welcome Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, to discuss the evolution of frontend development and the role of AI in shaping modern engineering workflows.

Malte dives into V0, Vercel's innovative tool for generating frontend code using AI, and explains how it empowers developers—especially backend engineers—to build full-stack applications.

We also explore the concept of verticalization in engineering roles, the challenges of balancing innovation with infrastructure, and how AI is redefining productivity in tech.

Learn back-end development - https://www.boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Malte's X: https://x.com/cramforce

Vercel: https://vercel.com/

V0: https://v0.dev/

Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro and Meeting Malte

01:23 - What is V0 and Why Did Vercel Build It?

04:00 - The Technical Challenges Behind V0

10:34 - How V0 Leverages Tailwind and TypeScript

19:15 - AI's Impact on Frontend Development

23:20 - Verticalization of Engineering Roles

32:01 - How AI is Changing Development Workflows

37:09 - The Future of Full-Stack Engineering

44:08 - How Vercel Balances Product Innovation with Core Infrastructure

46:06 - Final Thoughts and Where to Find Malte

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Today we welcome Madison Kana—a self-taught dev who defied the traditional path. From dropping out and navigating a world of homeschooling to launching the Code Book Club, Madison transformed her unconventional journey into a thriving community of coders. In this episode, she shares how bypassing the typical education route fueled her passion, the real challenges of learning on your own, and the power of mentorship in building a dynamic tech career. If you’re ready to break the mold and carve your own path in software development.

Learn back-end development - https://www.boot.dev

Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Madison's X: https://x.com/Madisonkanna

Website: https://madisonkanna.com/

Learn out loud: learn0utloud.com

Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

00:30 - Where did it all start?

01:40 - Dropping out

08:42 - How Madison started learning code

22:00 - Team leading

30:30 - Code Book Club

38:50 - Learn out loud

46:20 - AI talk

54:18 - Book recommendations

56:05 - Outro

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This time Elliot from @dreamsofcode joins us to talk about building his own course platform we dive into why he chose to go custom, the tech stack behind his platform, and the philosophy of building vs. buying in software.

We also discuss the challenges of teaching programming, the role of AI in development, and what it really takes to create a great online course. If you're into coding, education, or the intersection of both, this one's for you!

Learn back-end development - https://www.boot.devListen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm

Elliott's Youtube: @dreamsofcode

Elliott's Course: https://dreamsofcode.io/

Elliott's X: https://x.com/dreamsofcode_io

Timestamps

00:00 - Intro and Meeting Elliot

02:36 - Why Build a Custom Course Platform?

08:13 - The Challenges of Serving Video Content

20:16 - The Build vs. Buy Debate

28:20 - What Was Bought vs. Built?

33:28 - How AI Is Changing Development

45:12 - GDPR, Privacy, and Analytics

54:19 - Tech Stack Behind the Platform

1:06:33 - AI’s Real Impact on Developer Jobs

1:13:16 - Where to Find Elliot and His Work

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