This week, in the final episode of Digging Season 2, Flo is with fellow NTS host Shy One.

Shy is a producer and DJ who started aged 13 making grime instrumentals for this emerging London scene. Now a celebrated DJ and musician, she’s played in clubs and festivals across the world, and is loved for her musically deep, eclectic sets.

In this episode Flo and Shy One plant out tiny baby leeks and discuss their very different experiences in the seminal internet chat community MSN, Shy’s classy musical upbringing, and her early years watching classic British comedy Smack the Pony with her mum.

Presenter - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Jennifer Walton, Audio production - Felix Stock. Special thanks to Dimitris Mylonas.

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

You can hear Shy One on NTS every Wednesday on Soup To Nuts

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Not only are we off the plot today, we aren’t really gardening either. In this special edition of Digging, Flo is spending time with Penny Rimbaud in his garden. Penny is a founding member of the anarcho-punk band Crass and performance group EXIT, as well as a poet, writer and philosopher. In this episode Penny gives Flo a tour of the garden and ‘sheds’ at Dial House, the radical open house he established in the 1960s. They discuss his approach to meditation and philosophy as well as Penny’s various tattoos. 

They talk about the formative power of Paul Rep’s book on Zen, the early influence of the film The Inn of the Sixth Happiness and the fact that Valerie Solanas’s Scum Manifesto was the book most often stolen by Dial House guests. 

Featured track - The Casimir Connection - Forgiveness from the as yet unreleased Caliban Sounds album 'REFLECTION'. Credit to Dianne McLoughlin/soprano sax. Alcyona Mick/piano. Kit Massey/violin. Tim Fairhall/bass. Written and arranged by Diane McLoughlin. Produced by Dianne McLoughlin and Penny Rimbaud.

Presenter & editor - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Giulia Campanella,  Audio production - Felix Stock. 

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

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We’re back on the plot today with Slauson Malone 1, formerly Slauson Malone, also known as Jasper Marsalis. Jasper is a painter, sculptor and musician who currently lives in Los Angeles. His work in music feels like a form of collage; of narratives, sounds and references.

In this episode Flo and Jasper are appealing to Jasper’s perfectionist qualities and planting out garlic. They discuss the music that Jasper is currently fake listening to; his respect and fear of cooking and appreciation of dumb but useful items, like the dibber - which is well used in this episode. 

Jasper is currently reading Cruel Optimism by Lauren Berlant, listening to Abdul Wadud, By Myself; and watching Winter adé as well as Fast X.  

Presenter & editor - Flo Dill, Producer - Lizzy King, Sound Recording - Fabrice Robinson, Audio production - Felix Stock. Special thanks to Dimitris Mylonas.

Music - Cleaners from Venus - The Artichoke That Loved Me, courtesy of Martin Newell & Captured Tracks.

Listen back to Jasper's shows and guest spots on NTS

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