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Clock It with Symone & Eugene

Clock It with Symone & Eugene

By: MS NOW Eugene Daniels Symone Sanders Townsend
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Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels first became friends over decade ago, as they built careers at the intersection of society and politics. Symone’s work inside administrations and campaigns thrust her into the culture wars, helping candidates navigate the minefields of identity, symbolism, and optics. At “Politico” and “Morning Joe,” Eugene decoded how pop culture shapes — and sometimes skewers — political figures. On “Clock It with Symone & Eugene,” they invite listeners and guests into their personal groupchat. They talk about politics (think Nikole Hannah-Jones on civil rights!); they talk about arts and culture (Tony Goldwyn, aka President Fitz from “Scandal,” drops by!); and they talk about how all of it comes together to shape our lives. This is where you can stay tapped in without burning out. Because on “Clock It,” you get a look at the world in Symone and Eugene’s signature style: off-the-cuff, engaging, and always with a dose of fun. New episodes drop Thursdays.MS NOW Politics & Government Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Trump Won’t Save You, from the Billionaires or the Hantavirus
    May 14 2026

    The hantavirus is not the next COVID (at least that’s what we are being told…and hope). But Symone and Eugene wonder if they can trust the public health officials in the Trump administration. And a week after Tennessee and Alabama stripped Black voters of their ability to elect the local representatives of their choice, Eugene and Symone warn that Republicans in power are not done. Experts, like Dr. Ibram X. Kendi, would argue that attacks on Black political participation are nothing new. “If you're a racist white oligarch, and let's say you're stealing from white people and Black people, how do you continue to engage in those robberies? You convince those white people you're robbing that they're being robbed by Black people.” But Dr. Kendi says those attacks are misdirected. He joins Clock It to break down how we're being trained to think that political power is a zero sum game; and he urges people to see rights for Black and Brown people as something that benefits everyone.

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    46 mins
  • Money for War (and the Met Gala) but Can't Feed the Poor
    May 7 2026

    Usually at this time of the year fans of art and culture, like Symone and Eugene, are enjoying (or critiquing) the looks from the Met Gala's red carpet. But 2026 was different, because Jeff “Temu Lex Luthor” Bezos and his wife, Lauren Sánchez Bezos, were the primary sponsors. Symone and Eugene are joined by Honey Magazine co-founder and Ebony Magazine former Editor-in-Chief Kierna Mayo to discuss why exactly the streets were upset with the cultural takeover by one of the world’s richest tycoons. And why they themselves are not ready to fault the Carter family for attending. Our hosts also clock the Supreme Court’s recent alarming decisions and the ways in which fire has not ceased in Iran. Even though Trump has declared the Iran War “terminated,” shots (missiles) continue to be fired. Gas prices have doubled since the beginning of the fighting, which has some Americans trying to figure out how to pay for groceries. And the White House is requesting an additional 1.5 TRILLION taxpayer dollars for the Pentagon.

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    48 mins
  • Introducing WITHpod: The AI End Game
    May 5 2026

    AI – and coverage of it – is everywhere. But what is artificial intelligence, really, beyond the buzzword? Each week, in a special new miniseries - ‘The AI End Game’ - Chris Hayes is joined by preeminent experts on AI and its effects to help make sense of this revolutionary time in history.

    The series will feature in-depth conversations with experts, including: The Atlantic journalist Derek Thompson; professor at Wharton and New York Times bestselling author Ethan Mollick, professor of psychology at UC Berkeley and member of the Berkeley AI Research Group Alison Gopnik; former co-lead of the Ethical Artificial Intelligence Team at Google and co-founder of Black in AI Timnit Gebru; philosopher and cognitive scientist David Chalmers; author, host of the “Better Offline” podcast and writer of the “Where's Your Ed At” newsletter, Ed Zitron; The New York Times journalist and author, Michael Pollan, and more. The first episode is available now wherever you get your podcasts.

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Appreciate the down to earth analysis of the state of the political process. McCaskill is a gem.

straight talk

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Serious subjects with a bit of funny thrown in. They have a unique tone explaining politics.

Entertaining serious subjects

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I like the energy of each episode of this podcast. Symone and Eugene are dialed in and have a unique way of bringing content and guests that are sometimes provocative but always entertaining and worth the listen.

Great talk

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MSNOW has been “plugging” this podcast for a few weeks so I decided to check it out…

IDK what they are trying to do with this. It’s not entertaining and it’s not informative. Ever been to a comedy club on “open mic night” and witnessed people embarrassing themselves? That’s this; extremely cringe.

I get that legacy media outlets like MSNBC/MSNOW have abandoned their roots of delivering news and more focused on “engagement”, but what’s strange is that Nicole Wallace, Rachel Maddow, and Jen Psaki have AMAZING podcasts that truly deliver.

Why this thing? What “demo” are they courting? The network marketing campaign of this mirrors what CNN tried to do for Jake Tapper’s failed book. That didn’t end well.

Worse Than TV

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