In this episode, Jake and Surma chat about the complexities of adding common framework patterns into the web platform, and work that has been done on that so far.

Resources:

• Michael Jackson's tweet.
• Is WebAssembly magic performance pixie dust? - Surma's investigation into wasm performance.
• defaultValue reflects the value attribute.
• The value property is complicated.
• HTML template instantiation.
• DOM parts API.
• DOM Parts Imperative API.
• DOM Parts Declarative Template API.
• Atomic move for elements.
• Shizo Kanakuri's marathon record

In this episode, Surma talks about web apps that (partly) abandon the DOM and use canvas instead, to take rendering matters into their own hands. Figma is one popular app that uses this approach, while Flutter is an entire app platform that went with this technique to provide portability. Jake and Surma discuss the tradeoffs of building apps this way.

Resources:

• AI text-to-speech having a stroke
• ServiceWorker Static Routes
• Targeting the browser with Bevy
• Flutter’s “Showcase” section with a 6MB gif
• Flutter’s Material 3 Demo w/o Wasm
• Flutter’s Material 3 Demo w/ Wasm
• Ian 'Hixie' Hickson’s “Towards a modern Web stack” document
• HarfBuff

In this episode, Jake chats about the latest EU ruling that requires Apple to allow other browser engines on iOS, and how Apple is reacting to it.

Resources:

• Microsoft vs the EU
• Microsoft vs the US
• BrowserChoice.eu
• IBrowse
• Mobile operating system market share
• Web platform tests dashboard
• The internal Apple email about HTML5
• The Open Web Advocacy group
• The EU digital markets act
• Safari is "three browsers"
• Same Safari, different device
• Apple's "Using alternative browser engines in the European Union" docs
• Apple is killing web apps in the EU