Have you ever stood at the starting line of a goal so intimidating, it seemed to stretch out like an endless trail before you? That's where we find ultra-runner Caleb Bowen, our guest this week, as he shares his anticipation for the Western States Endurance Run, balancing the rigorous demands of his training with a full-time coaching career. Together with Ohio's trail master Jeremy Pope, we journey through the highs and lows of ultra-running, from the tactical to the personal.

As the conversation hits its stride, we delve into the nitty-gritty of race strategies and mental toughness needed to face Western States. From managing scorching heat to the nuances of nutrition, our runners open up about the meticulous preparation behind their hundred-mile pursuits. Whether you're a seasoned ultra-runner or someone who's curious about the world of trail races, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to not just run, but excel, in the face of a daunting challenge.

Join us as we sit down with ultrarunning champion Jim Walmsley to recount his breathtaking victory in France's Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc, his unique wedding anniversary that would make any Star Wars fan green with envy, and the scoop on Jim's strategic race kit evolutions to tackle grueling ultra marathon distances.

Wil Walmsley, friend of the show and twin brother to Jim, joins the conversation as co-host to explore the synergies between ultra-running, ski mountaineering, and cycling. And, because no May the 4th celebration would be complete without settling galactic scores, Jim weighs in on the epic Star Wars debate—did Han shoot first?

Set your pace with us as we embark on a lively exploration into Hoka's innovative running footwear, guided by the brand's own Dallas-Fort Worth and Oklahoma rep, Carlos Del Pino. Carlos illuminates how Hoka's bold approach to reinvention continually adapts to the evolving demands of runners.

We touch on the concept of 'sexy pace'—a sweet spot in speed that's both injury-resistant and progress-friendly. From his witty dive into meme culture to an artistic side that includes comic book creation and music, @carlostherunner is more than a brand representative; he's an inspiration for everyone to keep up their own 'sexy pace' in all walks (and runs) of life.