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Above The Fold

Above The Fold

By: Jess Cervellon
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Tune in every Thursday as Jess chats with operators and founders across CX, marketing, and everything in between to discuss what creates a killer brand experience. In each episode, we’ll dive into the nitty-gritty like acquisition and retention tactics and zoom out to discuss the big things like AI, brand experience and why customer experience is at the center of it all.Copyright 2025 Jess Cervellon Career Success Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales Personal Development Personal Success
Episodes
  • Episode 79 | Bringing Retail Heart to Digital CX with Lisa Yarrow of Everlane
    Oct 16 2025

    This week, I sat down with Lisa Yarrow, Senior Manager of Customer Experience at Everlane, to talk about how retail instincts are shaping the next era of digital CX.

    We get into what it means to bring empathy into analytics, why storytelling is the secret weapon for getting buy-in, and how the best customer insights do not come from dashboards. They come from people.

    Lisa shares her journey from the retail floor to leading CX at one of the most values-driven brands out there, and how Everlane’s thoughtful approach to sustainability, tone, and trust is changing the way teams connect with their customers.

    We also unpack what it takes to make data feel human, how to translate in-store experiences to e-commerce, and why loyalty is really about connection, not points or perks.

    If you are building a CX team, refining your brand’s voice, or just figuring out how to make your customer experience feel more human, this episode is packed with insights you can actually use.

    Listen now for takeaways on empathy, data storytelling, and how to bring heart back into digital experience.

    📲 Follow Lisa:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisayarrow/

    📲 Check out Everlane:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/everlane/

    Website: https://www.everlane.com/

    👋 Enjoying Above the Fold?

    Keep the insights coming by subscribing to my newsletter, Sunday Postcards. Each week, I share tips, stories, and strategies that help you unlock the secrets to brand success. Written from my experience in the marketing world, it’s your go-to source for staying ahead of the curve. Subscribe at www.sundaypostcards.co and join the community!

    Connect with Jess on:

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jess-cervellon

    Twitter: x.com/jesscervellon

    Instagram: instagram.com/jess.cervellon

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    44 mins
  • Episode 78 | Leading with Empathy and Bold Change with Minou Clark of RealSe
    Oct 9 2025

    This week, I sat down with Minou Clark, CEO of RealSelf, to talk about leadership, culture, and why creativity is the secret weapon in business. Minou’s journey is anything but traditional. From theater major to running digital growth at BuzzFeed, PopSugar, People, Yahoo, and Paris Hilton’s 11:11 Media, before stepping into the CEO role at RealSelf.

    We cover entrepreneurship, digital strategy, and what it really means to lead with empathy. Minou shares how her theater background shaped her leadership style and built her emotional intelligence, and why she treats interns, CFOs, and board members exactly the same, holding radical transparency as her rule. She talks about rebranding RealSelf to modernize the experience while keeping its loyal community at the center, and why companies that resist change get left behind. We also dig into the gap between corporate excitement about AI and consumer distrust, and Minou’s long-term vision for RealSelf beyond aesthetics to include wellness, nutrition, and mental health.

    If you’re building a brand, leading a team, or just want to understand how empathy and bold change fuel real growth, this episode is packed with insights you can use. Listen now for lessons on leadership, digital growth, and why being authentic is the best strategy.


    📲 Follow Minou:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/minouclark/

    📲 Check out RealSelf:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/realself-com/

    Website: https://www.realself.com/


    👋 Enjoying Above the Fold?

    Keep the insights coming by subscribing to my newsletter, Sunday Postcards. Each week, I share tips, stories, and strategies that help you unlock the secrets to brand success. Written from my experience in the marketing world, it’s your go-to source for staying ahead of the curve. Subscribe at www.sundaypostcards.co and join the community!

    Connect with Jess on:

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jess-cervellon

    Twitter: x.com/jesscervellon

    Instagram: instagram.com/jess.cervellon

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    35 mins
  • Episode 77 | Building Brands with Your Customers with Suze Dowling of Pattern
    Oct 2 2025

    This week, I sat down with Suze Dowling, Chief Business Officer and Co-Founder of Pattern, for a conversation about what it really takes to build brands that last. Suze has spent more than a decade helping companies launch, scale, and connect with customers in meaningful ways, and today Pattern is a family of seven home-focused brands built around one mission: making everyday life more joyful.

    We cover entrepreneurship, brand strategy, and the real lessons learned from building in the DTC space. Suze shares how she and her co-founders went from running a world-class branding agency to realizing the hard truth that building an operating business is a whole different challenge. She opens up about their biggest early mistake — creating their first brand for themselves instead of their customers — and why “direct with consumer” is the only way to win.

    We also get into why a brand is like a human being, with depth, layers, and personality that evolves over time, and why so many companies still get this wrong. Suze explains how product quality, customer education, and thoughtful retention strategies go hand-in-hand with building a strong brand. And she doesn’t shy away from the business side either, talking about margins, pricing, capital, and why most consumer founders should think twice before raising institutional funding.

    If you’re building a consumer brand, leading a team, or just curious about how to connect with customers in ways that actually last, this episode is packed with insights you can use right away.

    Listen now for lessons on brand building, customer experience, and why empathy and clarity will always beat hype.

    📲 Follow Suze:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzedowling/

    📲 Check out Pattern:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pattern-brands/

    Website: https://www.patternbrands.com/

    👋 Enjoying Above the Fold?

    Keep the insights coming by subscribing to my newsletter, Sunday Postcards. Each week, I share tips, stories, and strategies that help you unlock the secrets to brand success. Written from my experience in the marketing world, it’s your go-to source for staying ahead of the curve. Subscribe at www.sundaypostcards.co and join the community!

    Connect with Jess on:

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jess-cervellon

    Twitter: x.com/jesscervellon

    Instagram: instagram.com/jess.cervellon


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    43 mins
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