Keri-Lynne Shaw describes herself as a …..

KL describes how much power the phrase has for her when it comes to life and when it comes to career.

We explore the frequent ‘mucky/messy’ situations that KL has come across as a Chief People Officer. How important it is to talk about these messy situations, and how by talking about it allows us to explore the difficult situations we discover in our work.

Most people do not like to have messy conversations.

There has to be something we pay attention to when it comes to being a leader. Most organisations will cut the development budget first…and so the support isn’t there…and so many leaders do not take the initiative to build self awareness and hold themselves accountable.

The importance of failure, and how in some organisations that either do not allow failure at all…or the fear overrides everything, people cannot grow.

How our children can be so different to us, and how we can learn from them. As a parent…there are a few years through the teenage years, you feel like the dumbest person on the planet.

We don’t have a playbook on being a parent…and the messages that matter most.

We include three diamond questions!

1. What do you love?
2. What are really really good at?
3. How do you want to make an impact on the world?

The beautiful leaders and the ‘horrible’ leaders…and how we can learn so much from both.

Power Takeaways:

• The belief that I have to somehow divide my work and my life …and it’s so important that we get to choose.
• It’s such a beautiful idea that we get to see beauty in the mess.
• There is no straight line…not in parenting, not in career…not in anything!
• Turning failure into learning…everything is learning.
• The importance of hiring a coach when you get stuck.
• There’s only two things I can control…1. How I show up, and 2. How I treat others… and the rest of it is not up to me.
• When we’re triggered, it’s on us to get curious.
• We cannot control other people’s ‘shut down’ or trigger.
• Our communication can always be finessed.
• How do you think about the red thread in your life and in your career?
• You only have a short window to tell your story…and understanding how to tell that story will help you identify the values that match with the company you’re interviewing with.
• How to do the money conversation…how to present it and when to present it.
• You won’t get to the money conversation until you’ve done your work on the ‘red thread’.
• Taking the time to understand yourself, and your value add.
• You want the other person to be in a situation where they cannot imagine the world without you.
• Leaders that believe in us give us the confidence to do more, and want more and allow us to take the risks.
• Feel what you feel when you feel it, and don’t apologise for it.
• We need more emotion in work…we need to see those big feelings.

Resources Mentioned:

The Salary Bump

Instagram: @thesalarybump

TikTok: @thesalarybump

Linkedin

Minola Jac has written the most exceptional book “Everyday Inspiration for Change” (or “my baby doorstopper”!!) …

We chat about the book initially before diving into Minola’s incredible journey through her work and life.

Minola has a way of articulating moments that will stay with you for many weeks after hearing this conversation.

A journalist by trade and a change practitioner by choice…Minola has the beautifully messy offers throughout this conversation.

I can only hope you love this as much as I did.

Power Takeaways:

• Creating a book that didn’t start out as a book.
• Writing being a sanity practice and mindfulness practice.
• Minola’s journey with ‘Syngenta’ alongside her journey with writing.
• Doing change work as a practitioner at heart.
• An obsession with post its!!
• How her teams allow the space and grace for her to try out different approaches at Syngenta and how she loves her work.
• How journalism is still today her “most intense dream” in her life.
• A comment from her teacher aged 11 …”you could really make a life with writing”...
• How her grandfather reading newspapers inspired Minola to become a newspaper journalist.
• Minola’s studying experiences in America and Bucharest.
• “Once a journalist, always a journalist”...it builds such incredible life reflexes.
• When I need to process my reflex is to write an article up in my mind.
• Writing without adjectives…and how that affects our perception in every moment.
• Enjoy everything to the fullest!
• “Words are events…they do things…they change things …they transform both speaker and hearer…” (Ursula K LeGuin)

Resources Mentioned:

Everyday Inspiration for Change

LinkedIn

Freddie Fforde is the founder of Patch...Freddie introduces us to the vision of Patch and how it incorporates everything to do with community, collaboration and local business, as well as being a shared “work near home” workspace.

We speak about how working near to the people and places that we love means that we can invest more time into those people and places.

We speak about the importance of building community as a way to mitigate loneliness.

Freddie shares the story of the ‘long history’ version of his inspiration to build Patch, offering some real gems that link back to that story, as well as what still inspires him today.

The conversation then moves through his experience of being a founder and speaking with numerous founders and entrepreneurs…we explore some of the practices he’s observed throughout this process.

Freddie offers his brilliant approach of “build, measure, learn” as a founder and leader, and how that’s worked for him and the teams he leads.

We also of course then understand more about the meaning of “beautiful mess” for Freddie.

The beauty of the mess for him has a lot to do with the operation underneath the public image.

A rich conversation with an incredible founder and human!

Power Takeaways:

• Fundamental belief that people are great everywhere.
• People need a place to come together and to build community so that they can be stronger together.
• How difficult it is behind the scenes to build a crisp, serene process.
• The success of the output of a business is dependent on the effectiveness of its inputs, and the effectiveness of that input is indirectly or directly controlled by the people.
• Everything is always changing inside and outside businesses.
• Internal mantra at Patch is ‘build, measure, learn’ which encourages a truly agile culture.
• You’ve got to start somewhere and accept that failure, within reason, is going to be a part of that.
• There can be a real beauty and a real pride in knowing that things are improving as you move through the process.
• To bring the thing into the world and to want it to be better.
• The first thing I say to people when I onboard them is “I want you to feel safe here”. That’s what matters the most.

Resources Mentioned:

Patch website: www.patch.work

Freddie Fforde linkedin page: linkedin.com/in/freddiefforde

“The Library of Things”: www.libraryofthings.co.uk

Django’s coffee: @djangosspecialtycoffeehouse

Flower tonic: flowertonic.co.uk