What We Said About Palestine

By: New Politics
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  • ‘What We Said About Palestine’ is a powerful and insightful podcast series that delves into the complex and often contentious politics surrounding Palestine, examined through an Australian lens, with a particular focus on the ongoing conflict and humanitarian crises in Gaza, commencing from the events on October 7, 2023.

    Each episode offers a mix of original content and curated sections from the highly regarded New Politics podcast and the presenters, Eddy Jokovich and David Lewis, bringing to the forefront the Australian perspective on the war in Gaza, the global reactions to the conflict, and the difficult conversations about genocide and human rights violations that demand attention.

    ‘What We Said About Palestine’ is more than just a podcast; it is a platform for advocacy and education. It encourages listeners to engage critically with the information presented, fostering a community that is informed, empathetic, and committed to justice. Whether you are new to the topic or well-versed in Middle Eastern politics, this series offers a valuable resource for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of one of the most enduring conflicts of our time.
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Episodes
  • Episode 8. A broken Ceasefire: The continuing crisis and Australian weakness (12 Dec 2023)

    Episode 8. A broken Ceasefire: The continuing crisis and Australian weakness (12 Dec 2023)
    Oct 5 2024
    There was cautious optimism about the ceasefire in Gaza, but that hope has quickly faded. The Israel Defense Forces have broken the truce, and the humanitarian crisis has worsened as more Palestinian civilians, including women and children, are killed. James Elder from UNICEF describes the dire conditions in Gaza, where sanitation and disease are rapidly becoming major issues.
    In this episode, we look at how the international community continues to fail in taking decisive action to stop Israel’s aggression in Gaza and the West Bank. Despite calls for peace, including resolutions from Young Labor and 40 Labor branches, the situation remains unchanged. We also hear from Labor MP Stephen Jones, who advocates for an end to the war and a two-state solution, but as we discuss, it’s the action on the ground that truly matters, and right now, that action is lacking.
    We also explore the growing voices of dissent within the Jewish community in Australia, many of whom oppose Israel’s current policies. Publisher Louise Adler speaks out about the influence of the Zionist lobby and the broader spectrum of Jewish opinion that’s often overlooked.
    Finally, we discuss a recent incident where a peaceful protester in Sydney, holding a watermelon sign—symbolizing Palestinian resistance—was removed by police during an event with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. This raises questions about Albanese’s transformation from a young, left-leaning activist who once stood with Palestine, to a Prime Minister seemingly distanced from his roots. Has he forgotten where he came from, or is this just the reality of political power?
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    12 mins
  • Episode 7. Gaza ceasefire: A glimpse of hope amidst a brutal conflict (2 Dec 2023)

    Episode 7. Gaza ceasefire: A glimpse of hope amidst a brutal conflict (2 Dec 2023)
    Oct 5 2024
    Episode 7. Gaza ceasefire: A glimpse of hope amidst a brutal conflict (2 Dec 2023)
    After weeks of relentless violence in Gaza, a ceasefire has finally been reached—though it’s a ceasefire that Australia abstained from voting on just weeks ago. Initially planned for four days, it has now been extended twice, with hopes that it will lead to a permanent end to the fighting. As UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres remarked, this ceasefire offers a “glimpse of hope and humanity in the middle of the darkness of war.”
    In this episode, we explore the immense toll this one-sided conflict has taken, with over 15,000 Palestinians and 1,200 Israelis killed. The civilian casualties, particularly in Gaza, are overwhelming, and the humanitarian crisis continues to deepen. While war should never be reduced to statistics, the stark numbers reveal the disproportionate suffering endured by Palestinians.
    We also discuss the shifting global sentiment toward the Israel-Palestine conflict, driven in part by younger generations. Platforms like TikTok have played a significant role in bringing new perspectives to light, challenging the traditional narratives presented by mainstream media. As more people engage with the situation, particularly Gen Z and Millennials, there is a growing rejection of the long-standing pro-Israel propaganda, and calls for justice for Palestine are gaining strength.
    In addition, we examine Australia’s contradictory stance on the two-state solution. While Australia voted against a UN resolution for Israel to withdraw from the occupied Golan Heights, it has also granted temporary protection visas to 860 Palestinians—a move that has sparked predictable backlash from right-wing politicians, who continue to stir fears about social cohesion.
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    25 mins
  • Episode 6. The second Nakba: International pressure and the lack of leadership (18 Nov 2023)

    Episode 6. The second Nakba: International pressure and the lack of leadership (18 Nov 2023)
    Oct 5 2024
    As the war in Gaza worsens, the Israeli military continues its relentless bombing, displacing more Palestinians and raising the civilian death toll beyond 10,000. The global outrage is growing, with increasing calls for Israel to cease its attacks and halt what many are calling a process of ethnic cleansing. Some now view this as a “second Nakba,” echoing the catastrophic events of 1948 when 700,000 Palestinians were forcibly expelled from their homes—a process some argue has never truly ended.
    In this episode, we explore the rising international pressure on Israel to end the violence, the role of the global community in seeking a resolution, and the domestic challenges this presents, particularly in Australia. We discuss how Australian politicians such as Peter Dutton are exploiting social divisions for political gain, further inflaming tensions, while Prime Minister Anthony Albanese navigates a complex landscape of alliances and military ties with Israel.
    We also highlight Dr. Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Territories, who spoke at the National Press Club, calling for global accountability in Gaza and presenting a stark contrast to the more restrained approach of the Australian government. As we look into Australia’s military relationship with Israel, we question whether Australian-made military hardware is being used in Gaza and explore the moral implications of these ties.
    This episode examines how the continued violence in Gaza is reshaping international dialogue, the missteps of political leaders, and the urgent need for tough, principled leadership—something that has been sorely lacking in recent years.
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    20 mins
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