Jennifer Saginor who lived at the Playboy Mansion with her Father, Mark Saginor from 11 to her teens and partied there after, and I pick up where we left off. Discussing her book Playground: A Childhood Lost Inside the Playboy Mansion. We discuss what the relationship really was between Hugh Hefner and her Dad. Were they dating? Did Secrets of Playboy sensationalize it? We go through some celebrity's stories from the Playboy Mansion Parties and compare notes. We discuss the fun people like Poet, Shel Siverstein and old Hollywood icon, Tony Curtis and the more sinister characters that were there, predator Bill Cosby and abuser, Jim Brown. Could you tell they were bad? We describe what going to a party was like and the hierarchy and rules. My stories mention Rod Stuart, Mick Jagger and Arsenio Hall. We then discuss the Shadow Mansions and the missing model Paulina Svenson. I ask Jennifer what happened to her? Jennifer shares her positive takes and some of the things she lost from the Mansion. I recognize something in her in me and we have a sort of epiphany by the end of the show together. I can't wait for you to hear it!

Link to Jennifer Saginor's book if you would like to buy it. https://www.amazon.com/Playground-Childhood-Inside-Playboy-Mansion/dp/0060761571

Sound Credit: Time Magazine 2009 Hugh Hefner: https://youtu.be/8OJfR-qOZxw

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