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In this episode of The Advanced Selling Podcast, Bryan Neale sits down with sales compensation expert Chris Goff, better known across the industry as “The Sales Comp Guy.” With deep experience in sales operations, territory optimization, and comp plan design, Chris brings a rare, holistic perspective to one of the most emotionally charged topics in sales: how sellers get paid.

Together, Bryan and Chris unpack why compensation plans create so much tension, how leaders can design them with clarity and intention, and what great sellers do to maximize their earnings. Chris explains the psychology behind why salespeople often distrust comp plans and why that instinct is actually a sign of a strong seller’s mindset. He also breaks down the essential metrics every rep should analyze on their own, from deal size to win rate, to truly understand how their plan pays them.

On the leadership side, they explore the most common mistakes organizations make when modifying comp plans, and how vague or poorly communicated intentions can unintentionally drive the wrong behaviors. Chris emphasizes the importance of “proximity,” (ensuring the reward is as close as possible to the action,) to keep teams motivated, aligned, and engaged.

This conversation offers a refreshingly clear look at how great compensation plans get built, how sellers should navigate them, and how leaders can remove the unproductive “us versus them” dynamic that often surrounds pay discussions.

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Part two of our macro vs. micro skills series—and this one gets tactical.

Bill and Bryan dive into the small, incremental skills that most salespeople overlook but that separate pros from amateurs. These aren't the big-picture capabilities; they're the in-the-moment moves that determine whether your sales calls actually go anywhere.

The guys cover the courage to stop and clarify when something's confusing, the power of numeric calendar values (no more "let's connect next week"), putting time parameters around everything, and the art of reviewing before you hang up. Plus: why you should set a five-minute warning alarm on every sales call.

The bottom line? You can't assume people know how to conduct themselves in sales conversations. These micro skills matter—a lot.

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Most salespeople waste their first meeting covering basics that could've been handled beforehand. Bill introduces a game-changing digital asset: the introductory video—a 5-minute pre-meeting video that positions you as a credible problem-solver before the conversation even starts.

In this episode, Bill breaks down the exact structure of an effective introductory video, including the hook that grabs attention in 10 seconds, how to tell your story concisely, the three industry headwinds your prospects face, your process for solving them, and the mindset shifts clients need to embrace. He also shares why most sellers won't do this (it requires actual work) and why that's precisely your competitive advantage.

If you're tired of first meetings that feel like interrogations or product pitches, this framework gives you a smarter way to start every relationship.

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