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Nat and Ang are feeling wistful about the end of Season 1. Things won’t be the same without the thrill of a hot mic this summer. But the gals will survive the break like all schoolgirls do, mostly because they'll be using their hiatus to gear up for Season 2!

Before they sign off, Nat and Ang consider the art of podcasting in all its glory and messiness. Some shocking stats keep things riveting. Some inside scoop, like what it’s like to be an age-diverse podcast team, keeps things scandalous. If it were a homework assignment, this episode would clinch the A.

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

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Mother’s Day is a perfect occasion for intergenerational processing! Nat and Ang take full advantage of this opportunity to explore a disconcerting array of topics: the evolutionary contributions of grandmothers, the panic over plunging fertility rates, the changing expectations of motherhood, how expensive kids are, etc. They even tackle (but fail to answer) the “to be or not to be (a mother)” question. Don’t worry about whiplash. A little artsy/litsy talk helps smooth out the ride.

Resources:
Kristen Hawkes, “Grandmothers and Human Evolution”
"US Fertility Rate Dropped..."
Peggy O’Donnell Heffington, "Why Women Not Having Kids Became a Panic"
"Yuni's Pros and Cons List of Having Children"
Michelle Ye Hee Lee and Julie Yoon, "Career or Kids: It's a Tough Choice for These Women"
Urban Dictionary
Jane Bell, "Mother Ate"
Leunig, Prayers (God Be with the Mother...)

Additional music:
The Turquoise Moon, "Like a Butterfly"
Raighes Factory, "Peaceful Light"
Humans Win, "Tick-Tock Block - Light Mix"
Justin Artis, "What's in My Heart"
The Turquoise Moon, "Mother’s Day: Hangin’ with Mama"

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

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Be not afraid! It’s poetry month at the pod and Nat and Ang are here to cure your BARDOLOTRYPHOBIA. The gals serve up an irreverent crash course in love poetry, from Shakespeare’s sonnets to Solomon’s songs with (almost) nothing and no one in between. Find out which of our featured really famous, really dead poets is the literary heartthrob of the ages. Discover at last why Shakespeare and Solomon sound so much alike sometimes. Along the way, just try to keep track of all the hackneyed metaphors Nat and Ang use to explain things. We dare you. And be sure to stick around for the singalong.

Zero credit offered and no homework. Just a romp.

RESOURCES
Poetic Forms Writer’s Digest
Sonnets of Shakespeare
Song of Songs/Song of Solomon
Rev. Rob Christ on Song of Songs (TikTok)
Zhang Longxi “The Letter or the Spirit”
Canonization of Song of Songs (including the views of William Whiston and the Latter Day Saints)
Sharon Olds Stag’s Leap
Oscar Wilde Ave Marie Gratia Plena

Poets Mentioned in Passing
Tyler Knott Gregson
Rupi Kaur
Taylor Swift (who?)
Mary Oliver

Just for Fun
The Hair of the Head of Shakespeare
New Yorker Radio Hour Podcast: Judi Dench on Bond and Shakespeare

Transitional Music and Sound Effects:
Jon Presstone, “Fancy and Friendly” and “Renaissance Revelry”
Storyblocks, Stadium Sound Effects

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
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"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

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The gals unpack their recent adventures and discoveries––from stray dogs and library story hours to things they wish they had asked recent pod guests. It’s a ride. Nat hums a few bars and ponders eschatology. Ang reads from a kids book and considers the nature of truth-with-a-capital-T. Together they decide that all we need is … well, love, sure … but a good book and a gospel tune help a whole lot too.

Sources:

Adam Rex; Lian Cho, Oh No, the Aunts are Here
Maya Ajmera, Cynthia Pon and Magda Nakassis, Faith
Jarvis, The Boy with Flowers in His Hair
Jack R. Gibb, “Defensive Communication” (essay)
Gibb Categories (Wikipedia)
Michael C. Bender, “The Church of Trump”
Jim Wallis, The False White Gospel
Sarah McCammon, The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living and Leaving the White Evangelical Church
"What is Realized Eschatology?"
John Shelby Spong, Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism

Additional Music:

Rainforest Audio, “Hide and Seek”
The Turquoise Moon, “Serene Guitar Ambience: In Nature”
Isha Love, “Good Old Days”

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

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If an episode drops on a major Christian holiday, trust the gals not to ignore the drama of it all. Just in time for Easter, they get help from a new friend of the pod, Bart Campolo, who is the son of a famous evangelist and who was a minister in the evangelical tradition himself for decades. That’s right, was. His later-in-life leap of non-faith led him all the way to secular humanism and a new kind of evangelical fervor––spreading the word about the sheer joy of living, heaven and hell be damned.

Bart keeps the conversation hopping with takes on how to scientifically conjure worship vibes and how not to let the narratives of the bible be held hostage by the literalists. Exvangelical listeners will especially appreciate his strategies for kindly but true-to-you conversations with those you left behind in the pews. Normal listeners will be fascinated at this peek inside a movement that seems intent on Making America Godly Again.

Resources:

Bart Campolo, Humanize Me (podcast)

Raphael, The School of Athens (painting)

Greg Epstein, Good Without God: What a Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe

Tony Campolo and Bart Campolo, Why I Left, Why I Stayed: Conversations on Christianity Between an Evangelical Father and His Humanist Son

Leaving My Father’s Faith (documentary)

Quem Quaeritas (early dramatization of Easter story within Catholic Mass)

Additional Music:
Jon Presstone, Fancy and Friendly
Raighes Factory, Peaceful Light
Turquoise Moon, Soulful Jazz PianoTransition
Jon Presstone, Spirit in the Sunrise

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
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"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)

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Nat and Ang continue their Women’s History Month exploration of all things feminism. This time, their focus is the newly released and fabulous book, Mean Girl Feminism: How White Feminists Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss!

In their wide-ranging conversation with author Kim Hong Nguyen, the gals ask some burning questions. Just who exactly is a mean girl? Is her name Karen, perchance? Is she young or old? Is she racist? Maybe even religious? And whoever the heck she is, how do we stop her takeover of feminism?

Resource

Kim Hong Nguyen, Mean Girl Feminism: How White Feminists Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss!

Additional Music

Turquoise Moon, Soulful Jazz Piano Transition

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
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The best laid plans can and often do go awry. But the best prepared gals always have a backup plan. Maybe even two.
The previously announced interview with Kim Hong Nguyen is slightly delayed, but is now in post production and will be out soon! The good news is that, right on schedule, here’s a new episode. The other good news is that you get to hear Nat and Ang in all their stream of consciousness glory. Everything they have to say is prompted by a single, measly set of scribblings, all of which fit on a post-it note! The conversation flits about like monarchs on a milkweed. And then, just like that, it’s over. Is that what they mean by “winging it?"

Resource:
Fundie Baby Voice Instagram

Music:
Irish Dance by zozo

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Technical consultant, Tim Godby
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No, not that one.

FEMINISM.

Yes, that one.

In this episode, we share responses to our sophisticated survey questions:

What the heck is feminism? Are you one? How come?

(Ok, maybe they were more sophisticated than that.) But the results are clear! Feminism is just as messy and wonderful and crucial and misunderstood as ever . . . you’ll have to tune in for the deets though. What the young'uns and their elders have to say about each other at the Intersection of Gender and Age is a must listen.

PS: Apologies for the click bait-y title. The Zoomer won that round. But here’s the Boomer having the last word. Mwahahaha! (And yes, said Boomer looked up how to spell “evil laugh.”)

Resources and Survey Responses:

Feminist and Anti-Feminist Identification in the 21st Century
Listeners Have a Few Things to Say about Feminism (survey responses)
Feminism is for Everybody
UNWomen, New Feminist Activism: Waves and Generations
Sarah Pruitt, What are the Four Waves of Feminism?
Muskaan Arshad, Girlboss, Gaslight, Gatekeep in a Capitalistic World
Lisa Jervis The End of Feminism’s Third Wave
Why Bitch Media Closed Shop According to Andi Zeisler
GlobalWE (Women's Empowerment)

Episode-specific music credits:

“Storytime Music Box” by Humans Win
“Together We March” and “Serene Guitar Ambience in Nature,” both by The Turquoise Moon

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https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
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Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)