Episode Summary Leadership isn’t about titles, charisma, or being the loudest voice in the room. According to Dr. Matt Kutz — professor, Fulbright scholar, organizational coach, and author of Becoming Epic — leadership begins with learning to lead yourself.
In this raw, energizing conversation, Matt challenges the watered-down pop-culture version of “everyone’s a leader” and explains why true leadership demands excellence, contextual intelligence, and self-compassion. He shares how chaos can actually be the doorway to your potential, why perfection kills growth, and why iteration—not talent—is what makes someone excellent.
Matt tells the personal story of how a shocking prostate cancer diagnosis forced him to stop, rethink, and write the book he’s always wanted to write. From navigating chaos to cultivating excellence through small courageous actions, this episode offers a practical roadmap for becoming someone who leads with purpose — whether that’s at work, at home, or within yourself.
If you’ve been feeling stuck, mediocre, or waiting for the “perfect time,” this one will wake you up.
Show Notes 00:00 – The Enemy of Excellence Matt explains why perfection is the enemy and why excellence requires iteration: “You have to try, fail, try, fail, redo, redo, redo.”
01:30 – Everyone Thinks They're a Leader Why society’s “everyone is a leader” message creates a leadership vacuum.
05:00 – Leadership as a Disappearing Act Cultural bias against standing out — the “tallest poppy gets cut down.”
06:30 – Contextual Intelligence The leadership skill most people ignore: shifting styles based on the environment.
09:45 – Chaos as a Package for Potential Matt: “Chaos is often the package that your potential arrives in.”
13:30 – Excellence, Perception, Inspiration, Compassion (EPIC) The 4-part framework of Matt’s new book.
21:00 – Mediocrity as a Social Pandemic Why we embrace “the middle” rather than risk failure.
36:30 – Cancer, Chaos & Writing the Book Matt shares the prostate cancer diagnosis that forced stillness and sparked creativity.
55:00 – The 3D Thinking Model How hindsight + insight + foresight = powerful decision-making.
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Book (pre-order): Becoming Epic — available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and major retailers
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Website: Home - matthewkutz