Episodes

  • Jim Herrmann: Three Amigos, Two Cultures, One Unforgettable BYU Career
    Jul 20 2024

    Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU football standout and NFL player Jim Herrmann.


    From his high school days at Arrowhead High School to his time at BYU and his brief professional career, Jim's journey is one of determination, growth, and continuous improvement. At BYU, Jim's impact was significant, particularly in his junior and senior years. As a junior, he set a school record with 16 sacks, and as a senior co-captain, he contributed to BYU's 1984 National Championship team.


    Throughout this episode, Mike and Jim dive into the highs and lows of Jim's remarkable career, from his multi-sport high school days in Wisconsin to his experiences playing at BYU and his brief stint in the NFL with the Dallas Cowboys and Cincinnati Bengals. They explore Jim's transition from being a Catholic student in the heartland of Wisconsin to thriving at BYU, a predominantly LDS institution. Jim shares insights on the lasting relationships he formed at BYU, particularly with teammates Steve Young and Lee Johnson, dubbed the "Three Amigos."


    The conversation also touches on Jim's personal growth, from battling impostor syndrome to gaining confidence during his redshirt year. Jim reflects on the sanctity of the football huddle, the importance of relationships in life, and how his BYU experience shaped his approach to football, personal development, and life beyond the gridiron. This episode offers a heartfelt look at the transformative power of college athletics and the enduring impact of teamwork and friendship.


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    Chapters:

    0:00 - Introduction and background on Jim Herrmann

    00:47 - Jim's recruitment to BYU and first impressions of campus

    03:04 - Jim's experience as a Catholic student at BYU

    05:55 - Jim's hometown of Hartland, Wisconsin

    08:48 - Jim's brother and family background

    11:21 - Jim's decision not to drink alcohol

    13:59 - Jim's early days at BYU and feeling out of place

    17:58 - Jim's positive experiences at BYU

    21:18 - The "Three Amigos" - Jim, Steve Young, and Lee Johnson

    24:53 - Jim's emotional departure from BYU after freshman year

    27:14 - Jim's physical transformation as a player

    29:47 - Memorable games and seasons at BYU

    34:12 - Standout teammates and NFL players from BYU

    37:36 - Steve Young's journey from 8th string to starting QB

    40:45 - Jim's life philosophy of work, dreams and belief

    44:30 - Jim's redshirt year and gaining confidence

    47:36 - Jim's NFL opportunity and lasting impact of BYU

    48:24 - The sanctity of the football huddle

    51:24 - Jim's continued relationships with BYU teammates

    52:53 - Closing thoughts and appreciation

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    54 mins
  • Eric Mika: The Art of Continuous Improvement On and Off the Court
    Jul 13 2024

    Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU basketball standout and professional player Eric Mika. From his high school days at Lone Peak to his time at BYU and his professional career around the world, Eric's journey is one of determination, growth, and continuous improvement.


    At BYU, Eric's impact was immediate, earning WCC All-Freshman Team honors. After serving a two-year mission in Italy, he returned to dominate, averaging 20.3 points and 9.2 rebounds per game in his sophomore season. His decision to leave BYU early for professional basketball led him on a journey across Europe and into the NBA G League.


    Throughout this episode, Mike and Eric dive into the highs and lows of Eric's remarkable career, from his high school glory days to his experiences playing professionally in Italy, Germany, Serbia, and the United States. They also explore the profound impact of Eric's mission and time at BYU, which shaped his approach to basketball, personal growth, and life beyond the court.


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    https://www.youtube.com/@btg45podcast/videos


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    Chapters:

    00:00 - Introduction

    01:00 - Discussion of basketball vs football players

    01:41 - Memories of Greg Kite

    02:19 - Eric's high school basketball career at Lone Peak

    03:29 - Eric's team's national recognition

    04:00 - Pregame perceptions of Eric's team

    05:22 - Eric's transition game and training

    06:51 - Eric's role and development at Lone Peak

    08:02 - Eric's time at BYU

    09:04 - Training with Brandon Davies

    09:50 - Experience with Bronson Kaufusi

    11:11 - Eric's mission to Italy

    13:03 - Unique circumstances of Eric's mission

    15:41 - Eric's experiences in Italy as a tall missionary

    18:52 - Changes in basketball and scouting young players

    21:51 - Discussion of current NBA players' skills

    24:01 - Eric's decision to leave BYU early

    27:55 - Recovering athleticism after mission

    29:13 - Hypothetical about NIL and college career

    30:20 - Eric's professional career and travels

    32:23 - Now for Later Podcast and post-basketball preparation

    35:32 - Eric's internship experience

    38:24 - Eric's current family life

    44:37 - Final reflections and gratitude

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    48 mins
  • John Denney: From BYU Defensive End to NFL Special Teams Star
    Jul 8 2024

    Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with NFL long-snapping specialist and former BYU defensive end John Denney. Despite starting his college career at Ricks College, John's determination and versatility led him to BYU, where he developed his skills as both a defensive player and long snapper.


    John's NFL journey began as an undrafted free agent, but his precision and consistency in long snapping caught the attention of the Miami Dolphins. His dedication and specialized skills led to an impressive 14-year career with the Dolphins, making him one of the longest-tenured players in team history.


    As the Dolphins' reliable long snapper, John left an indelible mark on the NFL's special teams. His accuracy and dependability resulted in a streak of 224 consecutive games played, showcasing his durability and importance to the team.


    Throughout this episode, Mike and John dive into the highs and lows of John's remarkable career, from his humble beginnings at BYU to his rise as one of the most respected long snappers in NFL history. They also explore the profound impact of John's time at BYU, which shaped his approach to football, perseverance, and life beyond the gridiron.


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    Chapters:

    0:00 - Introduction of John Denney

    1:03 - Discussion of John's football career as a long snapper

    3:50 - Explanation of what a long snapper does

    5:05 - John's journey to becoming a long snapper in high school

    7:52 - John's experience as a long snapper in college

    9:40 - Details on long snapping techniques for different plays

    12:03 - John's career with the Miami Dolphins

    14:35 - Evolution of long snapper protection rules in the NFL

    17:43 - Discussion of punting techniques and strategies

    19:27 - John's time playing football at BYU

    21:41 - Challenges faced during John's college football career

    24:54 - John's versatility as a player at BYU (defensive end, long snapper, backup kicker)

    26:27 - Reflections on intense training under Coach Bronco Mendenhall

    28:46 - Introduction of John's wife Christy and her food blog "The Girl Who Ate Everything"

    31:38 - How Christy's blog evolved from a hobby to a successful business

    34:33 - John's interest in nutrition and low-carb diets

    35:32 - Discussion of John's current fitness routine and coaching

    36:52 - Importance of resistance training and maintaining muscle mass with age

    38:15 - John's reflections on his BYU experience and lessons learned from adversity

    39:32 - Analogy between weight training and facing life's trials

    41:55 - Closing thoughts and wrap-up

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    43 mins
  • Andy Reid: From BYU Lineman to 3x Super Bowl Winning Sideline Commander
    Jun 28 2024

    Get ready for an incredible episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with legendary NFL coach and former BYU offensive lineman Andy Reid, along with his BYU teammate "The Masher". Despite starting his college career at a junior college, Andy's determination and passion for football led him to BYU, where he honed his skills and developed his deep understanding of the game.


    Andy's coaching journey began at the collegiate level, including a stint at San Francisco State where he helped sell hot dogs to support the football program. His dedication and innovative approach to offense caught the attention of NFL teams, leading to a successful career that has spanned over three decades.


    As the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles and now the Kansas City Chiefs, Andy has left an indelible mark on the NFL. His strategic mind and ability to develop quarterbacks have resulted in numerous playoff appearances and, most recently, three Super Bowl victories - one as an assistant coach with the Green Bay Packers and two as head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.


    Throughout this episode, Mike, Andy, and "The Masher" dive into the highs and lows of Andy's remarkable career, from his humble beginnings at BYU to his rise to becoming one of the most respected coaches in NFL history. They also explore the profound impact of Andy's time at BYU, which shaped his approach to football, leadership, and life beyond the gridiron.


    Gain insight into how Andy's experiences as a player and coach have molded him into the mentor he is today, inspiring and guiding not just athletes, but fostering unity and mutual respect within diverse NFL locker rooms. Learn about his offensive philosophy, his approach to play-calling, and how he balances aggression with strategy on the field.


    Download the full podcast here: Youtube: https://youtu.be/0NQmSYbSZH4

    Apple Podcast: ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-game-podcast/id1734495692

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    Video Chapters:

    0:00 - Introduction and Welcome

    1:18 - Andy Reid's Current NFL Activities

    1:46 - Punt, Pass, and Kick Competition Memory

    3:14 - Andy's Journey to BYU

    5:33 - Memories of BYU Coaches and Teammates

    8:05 - Mike Holmgren's Influence on Andy Reid

    10:10 - Andy's Offensive Philosophy and Play-Calling Strategy

    12:37 - Andy's Experience at BYU as a Non-Member

    15:51 - Memories of LaVell Edwards

    17:17 - Discussion on Harrison Butker

    18:18 - Handling Diversity in NFL Locker Rooms

    21:54 - Andy's Academic Journey at BYU

    25:43 - Watching Game Replays on KBYU

    28:58 - Andy's Coaching Journey and Challenges

    29:05 - The Mushroom Club and NFL Offensive Line Coaches

    31:30 - The Role of Offensive Linemen in Leadership

    34:23 - Keys to Being an Effective Offensive Lineman

    35:14 - Super Bowl Incident with Travis Kelce

    39:35 - Evolution of Offensive Strategies in Football

    42:13 - Andy's Parting Thoughts on BYU and Its Impact

    43:39 - Closing Remarks and Future Meet-up Plans

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    44 mins
  • Daniel Lacey: From BYU Walk-on to Forbes 30 under 30 Serial Entrepreneur
    Jun 21 2024

    Get ready for an incredible episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Daniel Lacey, Forbes 30 Under 30 serial entrepreneur and former BYU football walk-on.


    Daniel's journey is a testament to hard work and perseverance, having built multiple successful businesses from the ground up through innovative marketing strategies.


    Despite starting his collegiate athletic career as a walk-on at BYU, Daniel's determination and athletic prowess shone through. He lettered in multiple sports during high school and made a significant impact on the field at BYU, all while balancing his academic and entrepreneurial pursuits.


    In this episode, Daniel shares the highs and lows of his career, the lessons he learned from his time as a walk-on, and how those experiences translated into his entrepreneurial ventures. His story is one of resilience, adaptability, and relentless pursuit of excellence.


    Don't miss this inspiring conversation that goes beyond the game to explore the journey of a remarkable individual who continues to break barriers and achieve success both on and off the field.


    Download the full podcast here:

    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@btg45podcast/videos


    Apple Podcast:⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-game podcast/id1734495692⁠⁠


    Follow Beyond the Game on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hoo.be/btg45podcast⁠⁠ Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 01:00 - Defining a Serial Entrepreneur 01:50 - High School Sports Career 02:40 - Track and Field Highlights 03:02 - Football Journey in High School 04:55 - Transition to BYU Football 11:22 - Role in the Scout Team 13:17 - Training the Defense 12:57 - Memorable Practice Moments 16:22 - Entrepreneurial Ventures 40:51 - Connecting Sports and Business 42:00 - Closing Remarks


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    42 mins
  • Brent Johnson: Overcoming THE Miss, a BYU Legend's Journey
    Jun 14 2024

    Get ready for an incredible episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU Football kicker Brent Johnson. Despite starting his collegiate career as a walk-on, Brent's determination and skill led him to a memorable journey at BYU. After turning down an opportunity to play at Utah State to serve his mission in Northern California, Brent walked on at BYU in 1975. His persistence paid off, and despite some unexpected adversity, he eventually secured a spot on the team, contributing significantly as place kicker through the rest of his college career.


    During that career, he had significant accolades and achievements, one of which was setting the conference record for consecutive extra-points made.


    Brent's journey was not without its challenges. During his time at BYU, he faced setbacks, including nearly being cut from the team. A serendipitous encounter with Coach Norm Chow, who reassured Brent and helped him get back on track, exemplifies the resilience and support that defined his time at BYU. Brent's career highlight came in 1979 during a game against Indiana, where his field goal attempt was pivotal, although it ultimately didn't change the game's outcome. This moment, while heartbreaking, showcased his courage and determination.


    Throughout this episode, Mike and Brent delve into the highs and lows of Brent's remarkable career, from his early days walking on at BYU to his impactful moments on the field. They also explore the personal growth Brent experienced, including the profound impact of his LDS mission and the support from his coaches and teammates. Gain insight into how Brent's experiences on and off the field have shaped him into the resilient and inspiring individual he is today.


    Don't miss this engaging and inspirational conversation that goes beyond the game and showcases the power of perseverance, faith, and mentorship.


    Download the full podcast here: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS4XzJZCABk&t=1933s


    Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-game-podcast/id1734495692


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    Video Chapters: 0:00 - Introduction and Background 3:39 - Walk-On Experience at BYU 6:38 - Transitioning to Kicker Role 10:40 - Earning a Scholarship 15:42 - The 1978 Season and Water Skiing Injury 19:15 - Comeback from Injury 22:49 - 1979 Season Highlights 25:22 - Breaking WAC Scoring Record 27:21 - Texas A&M Game and Season Momentum 31:32 - Holiday Bowl Against Indiana Setup 33:48 - Critical Special Teams Plays 36:37 - THE Final Field Goal Attempt 40:16 - THE Missed Kick 43:51 - Immediate Aftermath on the Field 45:33 - Locker Room Scene and Media Frenzy 48:32 - Coach Whittingham's Comforting Words 50:30 - President Oaks' Encouragement 52:17 - Reflections Years Later 55:52 - Life Lessons and Personal Growth 57:26 - Family Legacy - Grandson at BYU 58:35 - Final Thoughts on Resilience

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    1 hr
  • Chad 'Leapin' Lewis: From BYU Walk-On to NFL Stardom
    Jun 7 2024

    Get ready for an incredible episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU Football legend and Philadelphia Eagles Tight End, Chad Lewis. Despite starting as a walk-on at BYU, Chad's determination and skill led him to an impressive collegiate career, amassing 111 receptions for 1,376 yards and ten touchdowns. Not only did this earn Chad a spot on the All-WAC first-team but also garnered him the nickname "Leapin' Lewis" for his incredible ability to leap over defenders with ease. Chad's NFL journey began as an undrafted free agent with the Philadelphia Eagles in 1997. After a brief stint with the St. Louis Rams, he returned to the Eagles, where he made a significant impact. In the 2005 NFC Championship game, Chad caught the game-clinching touchdown pass, solidifying the Eagles' spot in Super Bowl XXXIX. Unfortunately, during the catch, he suffered a severe foot injury that prevented him from playing in the Super Bowl. Throughout this episode, Mike and Chad delve into the highs and lows of Chad's remarkable career, from his humble beginnings as a walk-on at BYU to his rise to stardom in the NFL. They also explore the profound impact of Chad's LDS mission to Taiwan, which completely transformed his life and shaped his approach to football and beyond. Gain insight into how Chad's experiences on the gridiron have molded him into the mentor he is today, inspiring and guiding the next generation of athletes and individuals alike. Don't miss this engaging and inspirational conversation that goes beyond the game and showcases the power of perseverance, faith, and leadership. Follow Beyond the Game on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://hoo.be/btg45podcast⁠⁠ Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 03:20 - Chad Lewis's Career and Highlights 06:05 - High School Athletic Background 07:20 - Injury and Playing Style 08:20 - Playing for Andy Reid 11:15 - Andy Reid's Coaching Philosophy 13:14 - Travis Kelce Incident 16:35 - Family and Parenting 17:48 - The Walk-On Advantage 19:30 - The Power of Prayer and Friendship 21:56 - Zero to Hero: Proving Yourself Every Day 24:30 - Chad's NFC Championship Catch and Injury 29:27 - Taiwan Mission: A Life-Changing Experience 31:88 - NFL Ambassador to Asia 33:39 - The LDS Church in China 36:11 - God in the Details of Our Lives

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    40 mins
  • Danny Frazier (Part 2): Overcoming Racism at BYU, Serving an LDS Mission, and the Injury that Changed Everything...
    Apr 26 2024

    Join host Mike Lacey for part two of "Beyond the Game," showcasing Danny Frazier. As a testament to resilience, Danny Frazier's story is one of overcoming adversity and achieving success beyond the sports field.


    Danny Frazier, a former two-sport BYU athlete and one of the first African-American athletes at the university, saw his promising NFL career cut short by a broken neck in 1979. Despite this setback, he pivoted to a successful law career in Utah, founding the Frazier Law Firm specializing in criminal defense. Encouraging his son, Jameson Frazier, to pursue his passions, Danny exemplifies resilience and determination, turning adversity into opportunity.


    Join us as Mike and Lee dive deep into the exciting narrative of Danny Frazier's remarkable life.


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    37 mins