Inspired by Anders' comparisons of the Hollywood Costume Factory and museums, this bonus episode features two experts in history and museum studies who help Ben and Chris 'unpack the real'.

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Avril Alba, scholar and expert in Jewish and Holocaust museums from the University of Sydney:

https://www.sydney.edu.au/arts/about/our-people/academic-staff/avril-alba.html

Alina Kozlovski, scholar and expert in Roman history and archaeology with extensive experience working in museums in the UK, USA and Australia from the University of New England:

https://www.une.edu.au/staff-profiles/hass/alina-kozlovski

Bernd Bösel, philosopher and media scholar from the University of Potsdam: https://www.uni-potsdam.de/de/medienwissenschaft/professur-fuer-medientheorie-medienwissenschaft/mitarbeiter/dr-bernd-boesel and https://uni-potsdam.academia.edu/BerndB%C3%B6sel

Chris Muller, scholar in media theory and Cultural Studies from Macquarie University: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/persons/chris-muller

Ben Nickl, Pop Culture and humour studies scholar from the University of Sydney: https://www.sydney.edu.au/arts/about/our-people/academic-staff/benjamin-nickl.html

Helen Wolfenden, spoken word audio scholar and practitioner from Macquarie University: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/persons/helen-wolfenden

Find out more about Real is not Real Enough here: https://www.goethe.de/ins/au/en/kul/lok/gap.html