In this week's episode, we chat with Dennis about branching out from D&D, useful feedback on game design, and the tradeoff between generality and specificity. We're doing something a little bit different this week (talking to someone who's built a new game system) and so the conversation gets a little crunchy at times. Also, you get to hear about Jake and Reilly's whole process of backups on backups when we're recording these episodes.

Spoiler alert for Jane Eyre, which Jake embarrassingly confuses with Sense and Sensibility. Also, spoiler alert for Lord of the Rings. If you're listening to this podcast and you've somehow never read or watched Lord of the Rings, let us know.

If you're interested in downloading SAGAS for yourself, here's the Kickstarter and here's the DriveThruRPG page. Also, go check out Dennis's other projects!

Here are some of the other game systems that we mention in this episode:

• ezd6, which has some excellently streamlined rules
• Tangled Blessings, which has an extremely strong aesthetic
• Contained, which is a very cute micro-TTRPG that Dennis built previously

This week's PC intro comes from Jordan. Thanks Jordan!

If you like the music on the show, go check out more of Reilly's music.

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