Episodes

  • #26: The Fear Peddlers
    Jul 29 2024

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    Today we're diving into a topic that often stirs deep emotions in the Christian community: fear (and the shame that often follows). We'll unpack the roots of fear, often instilled by religious leaders, and challenge it with biblical insights from 1 Corinthians.

    We’ll also have an honest conversation about the role of fear in religious teachings and how it can shape our beliefs and actions in unhealthy ways. I’ll share personal stories, including an attempt I saw to convert a tough gentleman with scare tactics, and we’ll reflect on whether such approaches truly align with Christian values.

    Plus, we’ll explore the notion from 1 John 4 that living in love means living in tune with God and why perfect love expels fear. Join me as we question, reflect, and strive for a faith driven by love, not fear. Cheers!

    Wine in this episode: 2020 Dominio IV Tempranillo Rosé

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    34 mins
  • #25: From Church to Cocktails (with Jordan Hughes)
    Jul 15 2024

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    Welcome to "Cabernet and Pray," episode 25! Today we are joined by Jordan Hughes, also known as the "High Proof Preacher." Jordan, a renowned commercial photographer and videographer from Portland, Oregon, shares his journey from growing up in a church-centric life to becoming a cocktail expert and social media influencer. Delving deep into the art of spirit-forward cocktails, Jordan emphasizes the importance of quality ingredients, his preference for Luxardo cherries, and the joy of using good spirits.

    We'll take a heartfelt journey as Jordan recounts his upbringing, his family's history with alcohol, and the pivotal moment that led him to question his faith and career. From making his mark in the cocktail industry to navigating the complexities of parenthood amid significant personal and societal changes, Jordan's story is one of transformation and resilience.

    Tune in as we discuss everything from the nuances of great cocktails and the challenges of deconstructing faith, to the exciting world of spirit photography and the impact of political polarization on Christianity. Jordan's insights are sure to inspire, whether you're a cocktail enthusiast, a parent, or someone re-evaluating your beliefs.

    Wines in this episode:

    • 2018 Brunello Di Montalcino
    • Landmass Wines 2022 RU OK Pet Nat

    Links:

    • https://www.highproofpreacher.com
    • https://www.cocktailcamera.com
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    1 hr and 34 mins
  • #24: Blood From a Stone (with Adam McHugh)
    Jul 1 2024

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    In this episode, we sit down with Adam McHugh, a former hospice chaplain turned sommelier and wine tour guide, as we dive into a fascinating conversation blending spirituality, personal transformation, and the world of wine.

    Adam, the author of the memoir "Blood from a Stone," shares his remarkable journey from ministry to the vineyards of Santa Ynez Valley, shedding light on how this transition reshaped his faith and identity. He opens up about the memorable moments and meaningful connections he’s made through wine and how his experiences in the wine industry parallel the sacraments of Christianity—emphasizing simplicity, beauty, and community.

    Together, we explore how stepping away from traditional religious roles allowed us to uncover new perspectives and spiritual depths, all while savoring the wine in our glasses.

    Join us as we discuss the importance of not stereotyping others, the value of genuine listening, and the miraculous elements found in both wine and faith. Plus, Adam shares some light-hearted stories about reactions to his career shift. Pour yourself a glass and tune in for an episode brimming with honesty, humor, and heartfelt reflection.

    Wines in this episode:

    • 2021 Mourvèdre from Saarloos and Sons
    • Story of Soil Bentrock Vineyard Pinot Noir

    Links:

    • Adam's latest book: Blood from a Stone
    • Adam's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adammchughwine/
    • Adam's Linktree page: https://linktr.ee/adammchugh
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    56 mins
  • #23: Living in Love (with Greg Boyd)
    Jun 17 2024

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    This week, we are joined by the insightful and influential Christian scholar Greg Boyd, who brings three decades of pastoral experience from Woodland Hills Church and a robust body of theological writings.

    In this episode, we dive into the intriguing concept of sensory bubbles, exploring how they shape our perception of reality and God's transcendence. Greg Boyd shares his thoughts on cataphatic and apophatic prayer, the humility inspired by Thomas Aquinas' realizations, and the balance between Jesus' divinity and humanity in orthodox Christology.

    The conversation takes a dynamic turn as we discuss atonement theories, Satan's influence, and the emerging divide within Christian circles around the response to power. Boyd also opens up about his journey with ADHD, the significance of staying distinct from societal polarization, and the profound lessons learned through humility and love.

    With humor, transparency, and a shared love for theology, we navigate through challenging topics such as the LGBTQ dialogue, climate crisis response, and the legitimacy of power in public life while keeping the spirit light with anecdotes about wine tasting and ministry life.

    Join us for an engaging and thoughtful conversation that promises a deeper understanding of faith, love, and the transformative power of keeping Jesus at the center. Grab your favorite glass of wine and tune in to this rich episode of "Cabernet and Pray."

    Wines in this episode:

    • 2021 The Prisoner Red Wine
    • 2020 Francis Ford Coppola Merlot

    Links:

    • Greg's website: reknew.org
    • Greg's Church: whchurch.org
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    1 hr and 30 mins
  • #22: From Ocean Waves to Rooftop Dreams (with Kevin Sweeney)
    Jun 3 2024

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    Welcome to another episode of "Cabernet and Pray," where faith meets everyday life over a glass of fine wine. I'm your host, Jeremy Jernigan, and today, we're thrilled to have a thought-provoking and dynamic guest, Kevin Sweeney. Kevin, a pastor, podcast host, and author from Hawaii dives deep into the essence of faith, personal growth, and the challenges of evolving beliefs.

    In this episode, Kevin illuminates the significance of direct experience in faith and the limiting nature of mere argument. We explore the complexities of tribal belonging, the grief of evolving beyond one's tribe, and the power of embracing change. Kevin shares how his podcast, "The Church Needs Therapy," and his mystical perspective on traditional beliefs aim to guide people toward genuine spiritual awakening.

    We'll also discuss the vital issues facing Christianity in America today, the unconscious wounds of our collective history, and the urgent need for honesty and integration. As we navigate these profound themes, Kevin's light-hearted anecdotes and passion for wine and surfing add a delightful dimension to our conversation.

    Join us as we sip on some beverages, explore the depths of faith and consciousness, and hear about Kevin's exciting new projects, including the Rooftop Alliance.

    What we're drinking:

    • 2019 Hall Cabernet Sauvignon
    • Juneshine Hard Kombucha

    Links:

    • KevinSweeneyNow.com
    • Podcast: The Church Needs Therapy
    • Kevin's Instagram
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • #21: Breaking the Stigma
    May 20 2024

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    Welcome back to another episode of Cabernet and Pray. Today, we pause our usual schedule to address a deeply personal and pressing topic that challenges many families: mental health. Our host, Jeremy Jernigan, explores a video of John MacArthur to dissect and debate the contentious views circulating within the Christian community about mental illness.

    In this introspective episode, Jeremy opens up about his family's journey in seeking help for their son's severe mental health challenges amidst societal skepticism and stigma. We explore the alarming divorce rates among couples with children facing similar struggles and the uphill battle against a system often lacking in empathy and support.

    Tensions rise as we share clips of John MacArthur's controversial stance on mental health diagnoses like PTSD, OCD, and ADHD, which he dismisses as fabrications by "big pharma." Jeremy counters with his own heartfelt experiences, advocating for a compassionate approach and emphasizing that mental illness is neither a parenting failure nor a new phenomenon. Instead, he calls for a supportive and understanding community that recognizes and affirms the reality of mental health.

    Join us in this thought-provoking episode as we delve into the theology, personal stories, and the call for a more empathetic and informed Christian response to mental health. This conversation is sure to resonate with anyone affected by mental health issues and those seeking a more inclusive faith-based dialogue. So, pour yourself a glass of wine, and let's dive into the heavy but necessary conversations on this special episode of Cabernet and Pray.

    Wine in this episode: 2019 Puerta de Plata

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    45 mins
  • Disarming Leviathan (with Caleb Campbell)
    May 6 2024

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    As we uncork the 20th episode of Cabernet and Pray, I'm joined by Caleb Campbell, not just to relish in our shared love for a fine Cabernet Sauvignon but to unpack the complexities of Christian nationalism. Caleb, a pastor and author, brings his upcoming book "Disarming Leviathan: Loving your Christian Nationalist Neighbor" to the table, serving up a compassionate perspective on an issue that's stirring the pot in our societal fabric. Together, we navigate the fine line between fellowship and ideology, examining how our understanding of scripture can be distorted and offering a toast to wisdom and authenticity in our communities.


    Have you ever found yourself in a place where reaching across the aisle felt more like crossing enemy lines? This episode reveals Caleb's personal journey through missionary work amidst American Christian nationalism, where an environment of division is met with a message of restoration. Through stories of heart-to-heart engagement and the cultivation of genuine empathy, we shed light on the transformative power of spiritual well-being in bridging divides. As we tackle the concept of 'hermeneutical magic,' we guide listeners on how to spot when scripture is being twisted by opportunists masquerading as shepherds.

    Wrapping up with a blend of personal victories and shared struggles, this podcast episode is a testament to resilience. From the trials of 2020, where Caleb led a congregation through the storm, to the joys of discovery in a French wine cellar, we take you through moments that have shaped his understanding of leadership, community, and self-care. Caleb's insights, brimming with practical wisdom, elevate our conversation, reminding us of the strength in diverse and authentic communities, the hope that lies ahead with upcoming book releases, and the warm anticipation of family vacations. Raise your glass with us as this episode celebrates the journey of faith, the power of community, and the courage to embrace our differences.

    Links:

    • Disarming Leviathan book
    • https://www.facebook.com/people/Disarming-Leviathan/
    • https://twitter.com/DisarmingL
    • https://www.instagram.com/disarmingleviathan/
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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Personal Trials and the Alaskan Wilds
    Apr 22 2024

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    Pour yourself a glass and settle in as we embark on a journey through the peaks and valleys of life with unwavering gratitude. I'll pull back the curtain on the heart-wrenching journey my wife and I have navigated after a startling genetic revelation. With the discovery of her BRCA2 gene mutation, we've faced the specter of cancer with courage and an unexpected thankfulness. This isn't just our story—it's a guiding light for anyone wrestling with life's unforeseen tests, a beacon of how gratitude can anchor us even as we weather the fiercest of storms.

    Our recent family odyssey to Alaska—a stark departure from our norm—reveals the transformative power of vision boards and the serendipity that life has to offer. Imagine being hilariously underprepared for the Arctic chill, yet so vividly alive amid dog sledding escapades and the ethereal dance of the Northern Lights. This tale isn't just about our leaps into the unknown; it's an invitation to embrace the beauty that abounds when we seize the day, trading comfort zones for unforgettable experiences.

    As we draw the curtains on this episode, I invite you to contemplate the profound insights shared by John Gottman on the resilience of relationships and Christine Pohl on finding solace amid life's unresolved challenges. Together, we explore the wisdom in appreciating our differences and choosing gratitude, even when neat resolutions evade us. It's a reflection on the strength we find in the unlikeliest places, and the grace that cradles us, even when life's chapters remain open-ended.

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    38 mins