In this enlightening episode, we sit down with Ramy Nassar, a leading expert in foresight and urban innovation, to discuss his vision for Toronto as a Challenger City. Drawing inspiration from his favourite movie Back to the Future, Ramy shares his thoughts on why foresight is essential for shaping the future we want rather than having it imposed on us. From tackling AI fatigue to addressing the city’s affordability and transit issues, Ramy offers a comprehensive blueprint for making Toronto a more liveable and innovative city.

Key Topics Discussed:

1. Introduction to Ramy Nassar:
   • Ramy’s inspiration from Back to the Future.
   • The importance of foresight in shaping the future.
2. AI Fatigue and Emerging Technologies:
   • Ramy’s decade-long experience with AI.
   • His current focus on quantum computing and other emerging technologies.
3. The Essence of Challenger Cities:
   • What it means to be a Challenger City.
   • The need for Toronto to think and act differently.
4. Affordability Issues in Toronto:
   • Comparison of housing costs in Toronto versus international cities.
   • The broader problem of affordability in Canadian cities.
5. Challenges with Toronto’s Transit System:
   • Ramy’s critique of the TTC and GO train.
   • Lessons from Copenhagen’s cycling culture.
6. The Problem with Emulating Other Cities:
   • Why Toronto shouldn’t try to be “Silicon Valley North.”
   • The pitfalls of copying concepts like “Toronto vs. Everybody.”
7. Limitations of AI in Solving Urban Problems:
   • AI’s role in optimization but not in addressing fundamental issues.
   • The need to focus on solving the right problems.
8. Economic Trade-offs and Decision Making:
   • The importance of understanding and making trade-offs.
   • The role of foresight in preparing for future challenges.
9. Ramy’s Magic Wand Wish for Toronto:
   • Revisiting the Sidewalk Labs project with a citizen-first approach.
   • The potential for bold and transformative urban development.

Quotes:

• "I’ve always wished I could go to the future, and that’s what inspires my work in foresight."
• "The essence of a Challenger City is to do things differently, not just follow the trend."
• "Affordability is a massive problem here in Toronto, and it’s not going in the right direction compared to international cities."
• "The highest compliment I can pay our transit system is that it mostly works. It’s not pleasant, fast, or reliable."
• "AI can optimize certain challenges, but it won’t solve the fundamental problems. We need to focus on solving the right problems."
• "We all have to make trade-offs. Understanding these trade-offs is crucial for making better decisions."
• "Foresight is about identifying weak signals and trends that point to a different future and preparing for that world."
• "If I had a magic wand, I’d go back in time and get the Sidewalk Labs project right by focusing on citizen needs first."