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  • 411 The Prime Minister of Subscription: Tien Tzuo and The Art of Category Making

    411 The Prime Minister of Subscription: Tien Tzuo and The Art of Category Making
    Oct 6 2025
    The business world rewards those bold enough to bet on seismic shifts; those who don’t just ride the wave, but fundamentally reshape the tide. In a fascinating conversation with Tien Tzuo, legendary founder of Zoura, we get a rare look into category design, entrepreneurial persistence, and the mindset required to rewire an entire industry, as Tzuo did for the subscription economy. As technology continues to accelerate, with AI now setting the stage for yet another major leap, this dialogue holds powerful lessons for anyone seeking to lead, not follow. You’re listening to Christopher Lochhead: Follow Your Different. We are the real dialogue podcast for people with a different mind. So get your mind in a different place, and hey ho, let’s go. Building Enduring Category Leaders: Evangelism and Timing Legendary startups aren’t created by chance. As Tien Tzuo describes, successful category creation starts with seeing a shift others overlook, then boldly evangelizing that vision. "Part of the category is to say, okay, there's a shift that's happening with this new technology. It's a significant, meaningful, profound shift." - Tien Tzuo Tien Tzuo’s journey with Zoura began well before “subscription” was a buzzword; when Netflix mailed DVDs and Wall Street scoffed at recurring revenue. He and his team endured blank stares and skepticism, proving that timing, storytelling, and the relentless ability to communicate the new reality separates mere participants from true category leaders. The Relentless Power of Story and Persistence Distilling complex ideas into a market-moving narrative is as important as technical innovation. Tzuo credits much of Zoura’s momentum to persistent storytelling: on stage, in books, and across every communication platform available. “What I saw was good storytellers…talk about a big, big trend that’s happening all around us…the market, the world.” Writing a book, he admits, was hard but necessary. "The only person that can tell your company story is you. Right, because it’s your idea, it’s your vision." For founders, being ignored or doubted isn’t a sign to pivot away; it’s a signal to refine and hammer home the message until the world is ready to hear it. Tien Tzuo's Advice for Category Creators in the AI Era Today, the pace of change is faster than ever. Yet the recipe for winning new categories remains strikingly consistent. Tzuo counsels entrepreneurs to begin with their unique insight into a megatrend, not with the category label itself: “Don’t start with a category. Start with…what gives you a right to exist?” - Tien Tzuo The logic applies in AI as much as SaaS: massive investments will be lost by those chasing what’s already established, while the next category-defining companies will stay close to their customers, listen relentlessly, and focus on the transformation they alone can catalyze. As Tzuo puts it, “With every new technology shift, there's an opportunity to displace an incumbent.;” if you have the courage to shape, not just surf, the future. To hear more from Tien Tzuo on the art of Category Making, download and listen to this episode. Bio ChatGPT said: Tien Tzuo, acclaimed author of Founders, Keepers, is a visionary entrepreneur and respected thought leader in the subscription economy. Best known as the founder and CEO of Zuora, he has helped redefine how companies build recurring revenue models, drawing on decades of experience at the forefront of technology and innovation. In Founders, Keepers, Tien shares powerful insights on leadership, culture, and the enduring commitment required to build companies that last. His writing blends practical guidance with stories from his own journey scaling global businesses. A sought-after speaker and mentor, Tien inspires founders to stay true to their mission while adapting to change, fostering organizations that thrive for generations. Links Connect with Tien Tzuo! Zuora Website | LinkedIn | Medium
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    57 m
  • 410 Founders, Keepers: Rich Hagberg & Tien Tzuo on the Data-Backed Truth About Entrepreneurship

    410 Founders, Keepers: Rich Hagberg & Tien Tzuo on the Data-Backed Truth About Entrepreneurship
    Sep 29 2025
    When it comes to startup success, few voices are as insightful as Rich Hagberg and Tien Tzuo. On this episode of “Christopher Lochhead: Follow Your Different,” these two innovators unveiled the complex tapestry of traits, behaviors, and pitfalls that define great founders. With decades of psychological research and hands-on experience in the tech ecosystem, they’ve distilled their findings in their new book, Founders, Keepers: Why Founders Are Built to Fail and What It Takes to Succeed. This lively, honest conversation goes far beyond the usual business platitudes, aiming to equip listeners, whether aspiring entrepreneurs, seasoned founders, or investors, with tools for self-awareness, adaptability, and ultimately, building companies that last. You’re listening to Christopher Lochhead: Follow Your Different. We are the real dialogue podcast for people with a different mind. So get your mind in a different place, and hey ho, let’s go. The Double-Edged Sword of Founders: Why Strengths Can Be Weaknesses One of the core insights that Hagberg and Tzuo bring forward is the “double-edged sword” nature of founder psychology. Successful founders often possess massive vision and creative drive, seeing the future before others do and inspiring teams with almost evangelical zeal. Yet, these very strengths can morph into ticking time bombs as companies grow. Founders are frequently high in vision but far less gifted in execution or relationship building. Hagberg’s decades of data, including 50+ measured personality elements and 46 leadership competencies, reveal consistent patterns: founders often struggle to manage and scale companies beyond their own shadow. As Hagberg observes, those strong on visionary skills can be “allergic to structure,” resisting the very systems and processes that enable growth and stability. Tien Tzuo, drawing on his own journey as a founder, recounts the moment when his company started unraveling as it outgrew his initial hands-on approach. The culture suffered, teams fragmented, and productivity declined. Only by honestly confronting his own leadership shortcomings and seeking help from coaches like Hagberg, was he able to pivot and build an organization beyond himself. The lesson is clear: self-awareness is not optional; it’s the foundation for sustainable success. The Critical Role of Self-Awareness, Adaptability, and “Recovering Founders” Delving deeper, Lochhead, Hagberg, and Tzuo discuss a trait that repeatedly separates successful founders from those destined to “blow up”: brutal, reflective self-awareness. Hagberg’s research shows that founders who actively seek feedback, reflect on both successes and failures, and are open to learning are dramatically more successful than their peers. It’s not just about innate curiosity; it’s about the willingness to recognize weakness, hire complementary strengths, and genuinely adapt as the organization matures. This journey often requires what the guests jokingly call becoming a “recovering founder,” someone who learns the hard way that vision alone won’t scale an enterprise. The most successful founders are those who create adaptable organizations, listen keenly to advisors and employees, and deliberately build processes for collective decision-making. They reserve their opinions in meetings, choosing instead to solicit diverse viewpoints before weighing in; a counterintuitive move that leads to more honest conversations and smarter strategy. The inability to adapt, on the other hand, is lethal. Data from Hagberg’s cohorts shows that unsuccessful founders are consistently more egotistical and stubborn, craving to be right over being successful and cultivating environments where disagreement is stifled. This leads to what Hagberg terms “sunflower bias”; teams that simply turn to follow the founder, rather than challenging assumptions or uncovering blind spots. Building Teams, Accountability, and the Myth of the Asshole Genius
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    49 m
  • 409 Slow Dopamine: How To Build A Career That Lasts By Losing Yourself In The Work With Monroe Jones | Creator Capitalist Conversations

    409 Slow Dopamine: How To Build A Career That Lasts By Losing Yourself In The Work With Monroe Jones | Creator Capitalist Conversations
    Sep 22 2025
    On this episode of Christopher Lochhead: Follow Your Different, in an unfiltered and deeply human conversation with Christopher Lochhead and Eddie Yoon on their Creator Capitalist Conversation, Monroe Jones traces his journey from the experimental studios of Alabama and Nashville to working alongside icons like U2, Stevie Nicks, and David Crosby. Through stories of uncertainty, obsession, and unlikely breakthroughs, Monroe offers a blueprint for building a life and career powered by authentic passion and “slow dopamine.” If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to create a meaningful, enduring legacy in the music business, or any creative field, legendary Grammy-winning producer Monroe Jones offers a masterclass in the transformative power of obsession, generosity, and self-forgetfulness. You’re listening to Christopher Lochhead: Follow Your Different. We are the real dialogue podcast for people with a different mind. So get your mind in a different place, and hey ho, let’s go. The Art of Serendipity: Building a Life Through Obsession and Generosity From the earliest moments of the conversation, it’s clear Monroe Jones’ career wasn’t pursued with a perfect plan, but rather, navigated by an intense pull, what he calls “the disease” of creativity. Growing up in the South, Monroe was steeped in family, tradition, and, crucially, music; a world that intersected unexpectedly with architecture, marketing, and the showmanship of the British pop invasion. By his teens, Monroe was constructing makeshift studios, experimenting with reel-to-reel tape machines, and hustling his way through the yellow pages of Nashville’s Music Row. Resourcefulness was his secret weapon. For nearly a decade before his breakthrough, Monroe lived on a writer’s stipend, stacking thousands of “unseen reps” in the studio, all the while feeling compelled to create, regardless of circumstance. But perhaps what truly sets Monroe apart is not just the hustle or even the technical prowess, but his commitment to generosity and openness within creative communities. He recounts transformative moments: in dimly lit control rooms at A&M Studios or impromptu sessions with future legends, where serendipity and relationships created leaps of opportunity. “A lot of it is in a Forrest Gump sort of way,” Monroe laughs, describing chance encounters with the likes of Bono and Jimmy Iovine. Yet these “lucky breaks” were only possible because Monroe had prepared meticulously for a decade, learned every piece of new technology, and was always willing to show up for others, both as a collaborator and behind the scenes. “Creativity is freedom for me,” he declares. “If I can make something, boy oh boy. That’s it.” Design, Songwriting, and the Architecture of Lasting Craft One of the most insightful threads running through the conversation is Monroe’s unique perspective on the parallels between songwriting, architecture, and marketing. He attributes much of his creative worldview to both his father, a celebrated architect, and a college professor who urged him to pursue his true passion. The insight? Structure underpins all acts of creation, whether building a cathedral or crafting a pop anthem. Monroe sees songs as buildings, each with their own rooms (verses, choruses, bridges) and design principles, a blend of logic, beauty, and flow. This architect’s eye carries over to his work with artists at every stage, from the earliest demos to Grammy-caliber productions. Monroe’s obsession with “stacking reps”, hours spent learning, iterating, and failing, is the invisible scaffolding behind creative legends. He reflects on years in the studio as both exhilarating and grueling, emphasizing that the foundational investments of time and curiosity yield not just technical mastery, but an enduring inner capital of confidence, relationships, and creative assets. Slow Dopamine: The Bliss of Self-Forgetfulness and the True Creative Edge Perhaps the richest takeaway from Monroe’s journey is hi...
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    1 h y 17 m
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