This is Episode 5 of the “Divestment Generation” mini series, a five episode series exploring the 9 year campaign to win fossil fuel divestment at the University of Toronto! Our final episode is an “intergenerational” conversation where creators and co-hosts Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva invite a couple people from each of the prior episodes to meet one another and talk about key themes from the podcast, where they are now, and possible next steps for the climate justice movement. Our guests are Stuart Basden, Keara Lightning, Ben Donato-Woodger, Kristine, Rivka Goetz, and Léo Jourdan.

This mini series emerges from Amanda’s doctoral research with CJTO, a two-year ethnographic community-based participatory research project tentatively entitled “Actualizing Everything: Affective Activism, Effective Politics, and the Future of Climate Justice Organizing in Canada”.

Cite as: Harvey-Sánchez, A. & DaSilva, J. (2023). “Divestment Generation Mini Series, Intergenerational Conversation (Ep.5)”. Climate Justice Toronto.

EPISODE RESOURCES
UofT Fossil Fuel Divestment Timeline
Divestment and Beyond, Briarpatch Magazine Article (by Amanda Harvey-Sánchez & Sydney Lang)
Discovering University Worlds
Slow Justice (by Kate Neville and Sarah Martin)
Mikiwam (by Keara Lightning and Caeleigh Lightning)
Being the Change Affinity Network

SONG
Adaptation of “Which Side Are You On?” by Pete Seeger

LYRICS
Find the full lyrics here.

SOCIAL MEDIA & CONTACT INFO
Amanda Harvey-Sánchez: Twitter, Instagram, email
Julia DaSilva: julia.dasilva713@gmail.com
Climate Justice Toronto (CJTO): Instagram, Twitter
* DONATE to CJTO*:*: https://opencollective.com/cjto
CJUofT (formerly LeapUofT): Facebook, Twitter, Instagram
2185 Art Collective: Instagram

CREDITS
Editing: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Stefan Hegerat
Original Music: Stefan Hegerat
Hosts: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva
Guests: Stuart Basden, Keara Lightning, Ben Donato-Woodger, Kristine, Rivka Goetz and Léo Jourdan
Singalong: Rebecca and participants at CJTO’s September 2022 Orientation Producer: Climate Justice Toronto

This is Episode 4 of the “Divestment Generation” mini series, a five episode series exploring the 9 year campaign to win fossil fuel divestment at the University of Toronto! In Episode 4, creators and co-hosts Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva speak with “Fourth Gen” divestment organizers - those who were involved in the campaign from 2019 until the big win in October 2021 and its immediate aftermath. Our “Fourth Gen” guests are Rivka Goetz, James Slaven, Leila Tjiang, and Léo Jourdan.

This is Episode 3 of the “Divestment Generation” mini series, a five episode series exploring the 9 year campaign to win fossil fuel divestment at the University of Toronto! In Episode 3, creators and co-hosts Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva speak with “Third Gen” divestment organizers - those who were involved in the campaign from 2016 until 2019, ending around the start of the pandemic. Our “Third Gen” guests are Aniket, Evelyn, and Kristine.

In our song segment, CJTO member Rebecca and participants from CJTO’s September 2022 Orientation lead you in the fifth and sixth verses of a special adaptation of the movement song “Which Side Are You On?”, originally by Pete Seeger. Stay tuned for further episodes in the “Divestment Generation” mini series to learn the rest of the song!

This mini series emerges from Amanda’s doctoral research with CJTO, a two-year ethnographic community-based participatory research project tentatively entitled “Actualizing Everything: Affective Activism, Effective Politics, and the Future of Climate Justice Organizing in Canada”.

Cite as: Harvey-Sánchez, A. & DaSilva, J. (2023). “Divestment Generation Mini Series, Third Generation (Ep.3)”. Climate Justice Toronto.

EPISODE RESOURCES
UofT Fossil Fuel Divestment Timeline
Divestment and Beyond, Briarpatch Magazine Article (by Amanda Harvey-Sánchez & Sydney Lang)
Discovering University Worlds
This Changes Everything (by Naomi Klein)
The Leap Manifesto

SONG
Adaptation of “Which Side Are You On?” by Pete Seeger

LYRICS
Does it weigh on you at all? [High]
Does it weigh on you at all? [Low]
(x 2)
Corporations raised you up
but we can make you fall
They picked a war with all of us
does it weigh on you at all?

SOCIAL MEDIA & CONTACT INFO
Amanda Harvey-Sánchez: Twitter, Instagram, email
Julia DaSilva: julia.dasilva713@gmail.com
Climate Justice Toronto (CJTO): Instagram, Twitter
CJUofT (formerly LeapUofT): Facebook, Twitter, Instagram
2185 Art Collective: Instagram

CREDITS
Editing: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Stefan Hegerat
Original Music: Stefan Hegerat
Hosts: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva
Guests: Aniket, Evelyn, and Kristine
Singalong: Rebecca and participants at CJTO’s September 2022 Orientation
Producer: Climate Justice Toronto

This is Episode 2 of the “Divestment Generation” mini series, a five episode series exploring the 9 year campaign to win fossil fuel divestment at the University of Toronto! In Episode 2, creators and co-hosts Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva speak with “Second Gen” divestment organizers - those who were active during the campaign from 2014 until President Gertler’s rejection of divestment in 2016. Our “Second Gen” guests are Katie Krelove, Ben Donato-Woodger, Keara Lightning, and Ariel Martz-Oberlander.

In our song segment, CJTO member Rebecca and participants from CJTO’s September 2022 Orientation lead you in the third and fourth verses of a special adaptation of the movement song “Which Side Are You On?”, originally by Pete Seeger. Stay tuned for further episodes in the “Divestment Generation” mini series to learn the rest of the song!

This mini series emerges from Amanda’s doctoral research with CJTO, a two-year ethnographic community-based participatory research project tentatively entitled “Actualizing Everything: Affective Activism, Effective Politics, and the Future of Climate Justice Organizing in Canada”.

Cite as: Harvey-Sánchez, A. & DaSilva, J. (2023). “Divestment Generation Mini Series, Second Generation (Ep.2)”. Climate Justice Toronto.

EPISODE RESOURCES

UofT Fossil Fuel Divestment Timeline

Divestment and Beyond, Briarpatch Magazine Article (by Amanda Harvey-Sánchez & Sydney Lang)

Discovering University Worlds

SONG

Adaptation of “Which Side Are You On?” by Pete Seeger

LYRICS
Does it weigh on you at all? [High]

Does it weigh on you at all? [Low]

(x 2)

The city’s police chief

came knocking at your door

You gave ‘em 1 billion dollars

Does it weigh on you at all?

SOCIAL MEDIA & CONTACT INFO
Amanda Harvey-Sánchez: Twitter, Instagram, email

Julia DaSilva: julia.dasilva713@gmail.com
Ben Donato-Woodger: https://linktr.ee/bendw

Climate Justice Toronto (CJTO): Instagram, Twitter

CJUofT (formerly LeapUofT): Facebook, Twitter, Instagram

2185 Art Collective: Instagram

CREDITS
Editing: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Stefan Hegerat

Original Music: Stefan Hegerat

Hosts: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva

Guests: Katie Krelove, Ben Donato-Woodger, Keara Lightning, and Ariel Martz-Oberlander

Singalong: Rebecca and participants at CJTO’s September 2022 Orientation

Producer: Climate Justice Toronto

This is Episode 1 of the “Divestment Generation” mini series, a five episode series exploring the 9 year campaign to win fossil fuel divestment at the University of Toronto! In Episode 1, creators and co-hosts Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva speak with “First Gen” divestment organizers - those who were active during the campaign from its inception in 2012 until 2014, around the time of the People’s Climate March in New York City. Our “First Gen” guests are Stuart Basden, Monica Resendes, and Milan Ilnyckyj. In our song segment, CJTO member Rebecca and participants from CJTO’s September 2022 Orientation lead you in the first two verses of a special adaptation of the movement song “Which Side Are You On?”, originally by Pete Seeger. Stay tuned for further episodes in the “Divestment Generation” mini series to learn the rest of the song! This mini series emerges from Amanda’s doctoral research with CJTO, a two-year ethnographic community-based participatory research project tentatively entitled “Actualizing Everything: Affective Activism, Effective Politics, and the Future of Climate Justice Organizing in Canada”. Cite as: Harvey-Sánchez, A. & DaSilva, J. (2022). “Divestment Generation Mini Series, First Generation (Ep.1)”. Climate Justice Toronto.

EPISODE RESOURCES
UofT Fossil Fuel Divestment Timeline
Divestment and Beyond, Briarpatch Magazine Article (by Amanda Harvey-Sánchez & Sydney Lang)
Discovering University Worlds
The End of Protest (by Micah White)
Saving Us (by Katharine Hayhoe)

SONG

Adaptation of “Which Side Are You On?” by Pete Seeger

LYRICS
Which side are you on now?

Which side are you on? (x 2)

Storms Surge and fires burn

but you don’t hear the call

‘Cause developers keep paying you

does it weigh on you at all?

SOCIAL MEDIA & CONTACT INFO
Amanda Harvey-Sánchez: Twitter, Instagram, email

Julia DaSilva: julia.dasilva713@gmail.com

Climate Justice Toronto (CJTO): Instagram, Twitter

CJUofT (formerly LeapUofT): Facebook, Twitter, Instagram

2185 Art Collective: Instagram

CREDITS
Editing: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Stefan Hegerat

Original Music: Stefan Hegerat

Hosts: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva

Guest: Stuart Basden, Monica Resendes, and Milan Ilnyckyj

Singalong: Rebecca and participants at CJTO’s September 2022 Orientation

Producer: Climate Justice Toronto

This episode is the Introduction to our “Divestment Generation” mini series, a five episode series exploring the 9 year campaign to win fossil fuel divestment at the University of Toronto! This “Intro to the Series” is a conversation between the creators and co-hosts of the Divestment Generation mini-series, Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva. Here, Amanda and Julia introduce you to the scope and motivations of the “Divestment Generation” mini-series and some of the key actors and events that come up in later episodes. You may find it helpful to return to this Introduction as you listen to episodes 1-5 of the series, as well as the linked resources below!
This episode was first aired on CJRU’s Radio Everywhere program, which works in “collaboration with community organizations to produce pieces that showcase the work they’re doing, and to provide a platform for them to tell their own stories”. You can find out more about CJRU here: https://www.cjru.ca/project/radio-everywhere/
This mini-series emerges from Amanda’s doctoral research with CJTO, a two-year ethnographic community-based participatory research project tentatively entitled “Actualizing Everything: Affective Activism, Effective Politics, and the Future of Climate Justice Organizing in Canada”. Cite as: Harvey-Sánchez, A. & DaSilva, J. (2022). “Divestment Generation Mini Series, Intro to the Series”. Climate Justice Toronto.


EPISODE RESOURCES

Land Story Toolkit

UofT Fossil Fuel Divestment Timeline

Divestment and Beyond, Briarpatch Magazine Article (by Amanda Harvey-Sánchez & Sydney Lang)

Climate101 (the 2016 civil disobedience action that brought Amanda and Julia together)

Discovering University Worlds

SOCIAL MEDIA & CONTACT INFO

Amanda Harvey-Sánchez: Twitter, Instagram, email

Julia DaSilva: julia.dasilva713@gmail.com

Climate Justice Toronto (CJTO): Instagram, Twitter

CJUofT (formerly LeapUofT): Facebook, Twitter, Instagram
2185 Art Collective: Instagram

CLIMATE JUSTICE TORONTO

This podcast is brought to you by Climate Justice Toronto: a youth-led collective building an irresistible movement to confront the climate crisis by addressing its root causes: capitalism, colonialism, and white supremacy. Find us at climatejusticeto.com

CREDITS

Editing: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Stefan Hegerat

Original Music: Stefan Hegerat

Hosts: Amanda Harvey-Sánchez and Julia DaSilva

Producer: Climate Justice Toronto

Chiara Padovani is a social worker, tenant organizer and human rights activist running to be the next city councilor in York South Weston, endorsed by Climate Justice Toronto. In this episode, we spoke to Chiara about the leap from grassroots organizing to electoral politics and her ongoing campaign. Chiara talked about her love for her community in York South Weston, the unique challenges it faces, and how she’s working to fight for climate justice on city council.

This episode was first aired on CJRU’s Radio Everywhere program, which works in “collaboration with community organizations to produce pieces that showcase the work they’re doing, and to provide a platform for them to tell their own stories”. You can find out more about CJRU here: https://www.cjru.ca/project/radio-everywhere/

EPISODE RESOURCES

Land Story Toolkit: TCAN Land Acknowledgement Framework - Google Docs

Find Chiara Padovani Chiara Padovani for York South-Weston, Chiara Padovani (@chipadovani) / Twitter, Chiara Padovani (@chipadovani) • Instagram photos and videos

SONG

Adaptation of “Anthem” by Leonard Cohen

Anthem - YouTube

LYRICS

Forget your perfect offering,

Just ring the bell that still can ring,

There is a crack, a crack in everything,

That's how the light gets in,

That's how the light gets in,

That's how the light gets in,

That's how the light gets in,

Forget your perfect offering,

Just ring the bell that still can ring,

There is a crack, a crack in everything,

That's how the light gets in,

That's how the light gets in,

That's how the light gets in,

That's how the light gets in,

CLIMATE JUSTICE TORONTO

This podcast is brought to you by Climate Justice Toronto: a youth-led collective building an irresistible movement to confront the climate crisis by addressing its root causes: capitalism, colonialism, and white supremacy. Find us at climatejusticeto.com

CREDITS

Editing: Stefan Hegerat

Original Music: Stefan Hegerat

Interviewee(s): Chiara Padovani

Host: Dani Michie

Singalong: Dani Michie and Chiara Padovani

Producer: Climate Justice Toronto

In this episode we will be speaking with Melissa Poon, an architectural designer on regenerative and circular design in architecture. We explore the ways in which the built environment and its occupants can operate in symbiosis with nature and how that can help in our vision of a more green future. Listen further for our “temp check” segment on relevant leftist news, and actions to take, hosted by CJTO members Chloe Lederman and Freyja Chapman. Finally, learn the movement song “Everything to Gain” originally sung by Allison Beyer, co-written with Devon Sproule from Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ).

EPISODE RESOURCES

Land Story Toolkit: TCAN Land Acknowledgement Framework - Google Docs

Find Melissa Poon @mmelpoon

TEMP CHECK

• Gitsxan Land Defender Fundraiser. Visit: gofund.me/9899cff5
• Mutual Aid Request. Send e-transfers to: topsey84@outlook.com password: climatejustice

SONG

Song called Everything to Gain, originally sung by Allison Beyer

Co-written with Devon Sproule for Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ). https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2yISqAlE1-8&t=4s&link_id=3&can_id=ba64e30f9d18ed8fa028b1eb7debeb4d&source=email-follow-up-to-white-supremacy-culture-characteristics-20-year-anniversary-webinar&email_referrer=email_1176362&email_subject=follow-up-to-white-supremacy-culture-characteristics-20-year-anniversary-webinar

LYRICS

When you're healed, I'm healed

When you're whole, I'm whole

When you're safe, I'm safe

When you're free, I'm free

When you can breathe, I can breathe

When you win, I win

When you're fed, I'm fed

We have everything to gain

When you're healed, I'm healed

When you're whole, I'm whole

When you're safe, I'm safe

When you're free, I'm free

When you can breathe, I can breathe

When you win, I win

When you feel respect, I feel respect

We have everything to gain

When you're healed, I'm healed

When you're whole, I'm whole

When you're safe, I'm safe

When you're free I'm free

When you can breathe, I can breathe

When you win, I win

When you're home, I'm home

We have everything to gain

CLIMATE JUSTICE TORONTO

This podcast is brought to you by Climate Justice Toronto: a youth-led collective building an irresistible movement to confront the climate crisis by addressing its root causes: capitalism, colonialism, and white supremacy. Find us at climatejusticeto.com

CREDITS

Editing: Katie Tsang and Stefan Hegerat

Original Music: Stefan Hegerat

Interviewee(s): Melissa Poon

Host: Katie Tsang

Temp Check: Freyja Chapman and Chloe Lederman

Singalong: Dani Michie and Rebecca Nelson

Producer: Climate Justice Toronto