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Conversations about Language Teaching

By: Diane Neubauer PhD & Reed Riggs PhD
  • Summary

  • "Conversations about Language Teaching" is a podcast of unscripted discussions of language teaching, drawing on both research and classroom & online language teaching. If you like thinking deeply about issues of classroom language teaching and how those relate to research and theory, this podcast might be for you.

    Reed & Diane, the hosts, base our knowledge of language teaching on research we've read & done, theoretical views of language acquisition, our experiences as language teachers and learners, and our observations of language teaching in the US and elsewhere. We like to help build bridges among teachers and researchers and view ourselves as part of both communities. We collaborate on projects & like talking about language teaching & learning, and decided to have some of those conversations in a podcast format. Here it is!

    A transcripted, video version of the podcast is on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/@ConversationsaboutLanguage

    Season 1 episodes (5 regular + 1 bonus episode) were released in April & May 2024. Season 2 is in progress in June & July 2024.

    More about Diane: https://sites.google.com/view/dianen/home
    More about Reed: http://www.reedriggs.com

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Episodes
  • Episode 7: Learning about language classroom interaction through Conversation Analysis
    Jun 27 2024

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    Episode 7: Carefully observing language classroom interaction through Conversation Analysis

    Show notes:
    Harvey Sacks and Emmanuel Schlegoff Their 1973 study, which more or less became a standard for Conversation Analysis as a research approach and methodology: Schegloff, E. A., & Sacks, H. (1973). Opening up closings. https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/semi.1973.8.4.289/pdf?casa_token=43RDsMKs_5oAAAAA:Jy-8YLnSq1q62HsoHqXvozp4_E32PaP5q0f6qKyj43KC99eWiyXXG8CWltMqiCmURz7dVcy-dO6ORQ

    IB (International Baccalaureate) schools final examination: Sustaining interaction: Criterion C is mentioned in this overview of IB schooling: https://www.ibo.org/globalassets/new-structure/brochures-and-infographics/pdfs/myp-brief-language-acquisition-2020-en.pdf

    Heritage & Clayman (2010) article (Reed left out two of the authors’ names when he spoke, apologies): Clayman, S. E., Elliott, M. N., Heritage, J., & Beckett, M. K. (2010). A watershed in White House journalism: Explaining the post-1968 rise of aggressive presidential news. Political Communication, 27(3), 229-247. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10584609.2010.496712

    Olcay Sert (2015) book: Sert, O. (2015). Social interaction and L2 classroom discourse. Edinburgh University Press. https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=JBIlDQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=olcay+sert+2015&ots=DLVDZV8frV&sig=2Go1dqUTwVfh5rxgr6IDs3YvWY0#v=onepage&q=olcay%20sert%202015&f=false

    Paul Seedhouse book that Diane has a lot of places marked with tabs, and which she read from sections of pp. 58-59 and p. 62: Seedhouse, P. (2004). The Interactional Architecture of the Language Classroom: A Conversation Analysis Perspective. Language Learning, 54(Suppl1), x–300. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-9922.2004.00266.x

    My dissertation: Neubauer, D. (2022). Chinese language instruction with novice learners: target language topic development, engagement, and comprehension in online and hybrid classrooms (Doctoral dissertation, The University of Iowa). https://iro.uiowa.edu/view/pdfCoverPage?instCode=01IOWA_INST&filePid=13851224420002771&download=true

    Study related to language play by Diane & Reed:

    Neubauer, D., & Riggs, R. (2024). Pedagogical language play in a beginning L2 Chinese classroom. Heteroglossia and Language Play in Multilingual Speech: Pedagogical and Theoretical Implications, ch. 9, 91-116. https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110787696/

    [Did you know it is often permitted for authors of a study to share a copy of their published work, if you contact them directly and ask? Conversationsaboutlanguage @ gmail.com

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    54 mins
  • Episode 6: Planning: "Communication for language" versus "language for communication"
    Jun 13 2024

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    Episode 6: Planning: "Communication for language" versus "language for communication" Show Notes:

    Reed mentioned a research study we did related to language play at the Agen Workshop. That is here:

    Neubauer, D., & Riggs, R. (2024). Chapter 5 Pedagogical language play in a beginning L2 Chinese classroom. In L. Darren & T. Elaine (Eds.), Heteroglossia and Language Play in Multilingual Speech (pp. 91-116). Berlin, Boston: De Gruyter Mouton.

    (Did you know you can ask researchers directly for a copy of their published research? conversationsaboutlanguage at gmail.com)


    Laurie Clarcq, Spanish teacher & teacher trainer: http://www.heartsforteaching.com/


    Claudia Elliott and her podcast, Growing with Proficiency: https://growingwithproficiency.com/growing-with-proficiency-the-podcast/


    We mentioned the Present, Practice, Produce model of instruction (we are not recommending this), Skill Acquisition Theory (Robert DeKeyser), and Behaviorism


    Season 1, Episode 4 was about Diane & Reed teacher experiences and trajectory: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2325378/episodes/14822099


    Reed’s article in Hawai`i TESOL:

    Riggs, R. (2023). Natural re-use of language through open topic spaces. The Word, 32(2), 15-17. Hawai‘i TESOL. https://hawaiitesol.org/news/newsletter/newsletter-archive/​


    Diane’s parents learning Mandarin Chinese (the audio quality is low, that was impromptu recording): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCaX8Z4AkGZrmMNMTNomuJiJpl8y3xB_p


    Paul Seedhouse book 2004 mentions a Form-and-accuracy context and a Meaning-and-fluency context in language classroom interaction:

    Seedhouse, P. (2004). The interactional architecture of the language classroom: A conversation analysis perspective. Language Learning.


    On psychosocial & cognitive informational purposes for communication:

    VanPatten, B. (2017). While We're on the Topic: BVP on Language, Acquisition, and Classroom Practice. ACTFL.


    Ngan Ta, teacher educator and Mandarin Chinese language teacher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nganhata



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    41 mins
  • Episode 5: What can language teachers get from research?
    May 30 2024

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    Episode 5 of Conversations about Language Teaching: What can language teachers get from research?

    Show Notes:

    Video (8m 31s) by Mango Languages, What is Second Language Acquisition (SLA)? | Science Behind Language Learning https://youtu.be/WZZUCykPQWE


    Diane mentioned this article as an example of how a research article is structured, and what the early sections of the article aims to do or not do (free to read & download):

    Creese, A., & Blackledge, A. (2010). Translanguaging in the bilingual classroom: A pedagogy for learning and teaching?. The Modern Language Journal, 94(1), 103-115. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1540-4781.2009.00986.x

    Reed mentioned Patsy Lightbown’s article (free to read & download):

    Lightbown, P. M. (1985). Great expectations: Second-language acquisition research and classroom teaching. Applied Linguistics, 6(2), 173-189. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Patsy-Lightbown/publication/30989447_Great_Expectations_Second-Language_Acquisition_Research_and_Classroom_Teaching/links/54b687380cf2e68eb27e9aaf/Great-Expectations-Second-Language-Acquisition-Research-and-Classroom-Teaching.pdf

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    38 mins

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