Episodes

  • Insights into Deaf/Hard of Hearing Disability Category
    Mar 7 2024

    In this episode of "Conversations with the Co-op," we delve into the essential aspects of Deaf/Hard of Hearing (DHH) services and behavior in educational settings. Join host Jeffrey Lee and special guests Laura Lind and Diane Schiffler-Dobe, Teachers and Coordinators for the Deaf or Hard of Hearing, as they provide valuable insights into the qualifying criteria for DHH services and their primary purposes. From discussing the intricacies of educationally intrusive behaviors commonly associated with DHH needs to navigate the steps to address behavioral challenges in DHH students, this episode offers a comprehensive exploration of the unique considerations involved in supporting DHH students' educational journey. Tune in for enlightening discussions and practical strategies to enhance support for DHH students in educational settings.

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    14 mins
  • General vs. Emergency Behavior Management in Special Education
    Jan 24 2024

    In this episode of "Conversations with the Co-op," join your host, Jeffrey Lee, K-12 Special Education Coordinator at the Paul Bunyan Education Cooperative, for an enlightening discussion with Jim Kath, Behavior Coordinator. Together, they unravel the complexities of behavior management in special education, focusing on the delicate balance between general and emergency interventions.

    Exploring the Gray Areas: General vs. Emergency Behavior Management

    Navigating the spectrum of behavior management in special education requires a keen understanding of when to implement general strategies and transition into emergency interventions swiftly. With his wealth of experience, Jim Kath shares insights into the nuanced differences, emphasizing the critical role of individual discretion in determining the threshold for what constitutes an emergency.

    Key Highlights:

    • Individual Discretion: Jim sheds light on the importance of empowering case managers with the tools to exercise individual discretion in discerning behaviors that disrupt the learning environment from those that pose an immediate risk of harm.

    • Resuming the Plan: Discover how emergency behavior management, while interrupting the general process, integrates with the resumption of established behavior plans and strategies once the crisis is effectively handled.

    • Consequence Perception: Addressing concerns around the perceived lack of consequences, Jim provides strategies to ensure that appropriate consequences are delivered effectively, fostering a conducive learning environment for all.

    Join us in this thought-provoking episode as we delve into the intricacies of behavior management in special education, equipping our dedicated case managers with the knowledge to navigate these critical distinctions effectively.

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    25 mins
  • Creating Effective IEP Goals and Objectives
    Nov 6 2023

    In today's episode, we tackle the art and science of creating effective IEP goals and objectives. Host Lainey Sandberg is joined by Jeffrey Lee as they explore the intricacies of IEP goal setting, unraveling common misconceptions, and providing valuable insights for educators.


    Discover why IEP goals don't need to mirror interventions precisely, but instead should align with a broader vision for a student's progress. Uncover the critical role of objectives, the key milestones on the path to achievement, and why they shouldn't be 'mini goals.' Dive into the fascinating world of setting goals that are tailored to the educational environment and consider how a student's disability affects their skill development.

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    12 mins
  • Roles of Directors of Special Education
    Oct 9 2023

    In the first episode of the 2023-2024 school year, join us on "Conversations with the Co-op" as we peek behind the scenes in the realm of special education. Host Jeffrey Lee, K-12 Special Education Coordinator with the Paul Bunyan Education Cooperative, sits down with Jen Johnson, Director of Special Education for six public school districts, three charter schools, and the Paul Bunyan Education Cooperative.


    Together, they navigate the intricate landscape of Directors of Special Education, shedding light on their multifaceted roles. Gain insights into the distinctive responsibilities and strategies Directors employ in both cooperative and single-district settings. Discover how these behind-the-scenes efforts are essential to the success of special education programs and ultimately benefit the students, even if they often go unnoticed.


    If you've ever wondered about the varying approaches and unseen work that drive special education forward, this episode provides the answers you seek. Join us for a revealing conversation that demystifies the world of Directors of Special Education.

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    23 mins
  • Summer Pause and Exciting Updates
    Jul 3 2023

    On this special episode of "Conversations with the Co-op," host Jeff Lee shares important updates. The podcast will be on a temporary pause, returning in August with fresh episodes. Topics will include legislative updates, roles within the cooperative, and an exploration of assistive technology. Jeff expresses gratitude to loyal listeners and guests, reaffirms the podcast's vision, and invites everyone to stay tuned for exciting updates and new episodes. Subscribe to stay updated and make a positive impact in special education.

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    3 mins
  • Exploring Occupational Therapy in Education: A Conversational with Eric Storbakken
    Jun 18 2023

    Welcome to another engaging episode of "Conversations with the Co-op." In this captivating discussion, Jeffrey Lee, K-12 Special Education Coordinator at the Paul Bunyan Education Cooperative, engages in a conversation with Eric Storbakken, an experienced occupational therapist. Delve into the world of occupational therapy as Eric shares his invaluable insights, drawing from years of expertise in the field. Gain a deeper understanding of occupational therapy in educational settings, exploring the distinctions between clinical and educational approaches. Discover how teachers can identify key behaviors and indicators that suggest a student may benefit from an occupational therapy screening or assessment, and explore the collaborative strategies that bridge the gap between teachers and occupational therapists. Furthermore, Eric sheds light on the challenge of distinguishing sensory needs from other behaviors, providing practical advice for teachers navigating these complexities.

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    32 mins
  • Creating Appropriate IEP Goals for Students with Autism Spectrum Disorder: Insights and Strategies
    Jun 18 2023

    In this informative episode of "Conversations with the Co-op," we explore the topic of creating appropriate IEP goals for students with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). Our special guests, Kate Hurd and Amy Strother, Autism Coordinators with the Paul Bunyan Education Cooperative, share their expertise on developing individualized, evidence-based goals that cater to the unique needs of students with ASD. Gain valuable insights into key considerations, common mistakes to avoid, and discover helpful resources that empower special education teachers to promote better outcomes for students with autism. Tune in to enhance your understanding and practical skills in supporting students with ASD through effective IEP goal setting.

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    13 mins
  • Moving Beyond In-The-Moment Teaching to Structured Skills Groups - Jim and Jeff
    Jun 18 2023

    In this insightful audio, PBEC's Jeffrey Lee, K12 Special Education Coordinator, speaks with Jim Kath, behavior consultant, about effective strategies for addressing challenging behaviors in the classroom. They discuss the potential drawbacks of relying solely on "in the moment" teaching and explore practical strategies for planning and setting up lessons and activities to address challenging behaviors in a proactive manner. Jim highlights the importance of teaching strategies for social skills training, including task analysis and practice in simulated environments, to help students replicate real-life situations. Jeff emphasizes the significance of collecting and analyzing data to inform teaching strategies and measure the effectiveness of social skills training. They also discuss effective goal-setting for addressing student behavior. Tune in to gain valuable insights on how to create a positive and supportive learning environment for all students.

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    15 mins